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Citizens of America: Demand Congress hold Bush, his flying monkeys, and, the criminal rat bastards who assisted Bush fully accountable for their heinous crimes against humanity
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indomitable2
2007-11-27 04:53:21 UTC
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For years, Bush and his flying monkeys have sought to protect Bush and his
flying monkeys from being impeached, prosecuted, imprisoned and/or
executed for their war crimes, their wholesale looting of America, their
widespread theft of America's children (especially in Kansas), and, their
making a complete mockery of the US constitution, the bill of rights,
religious faith, and, everything else decent Americans hold near and
dear, BY, corrupt government employees (current and former) and, the army
of felons and whackjobs which corrupt government employees recruit,
contributing to the imprisonment, debilitation, and, inevitably the death
of federal whistleblowers, investigative journalists, and, patriotic
americans, most especially, America's domestic decision makers aka
apple-pie baking, stay at home "soccer moms", by, subjecting them to a
program of systematic torture consisting of globally libeling, constantly
harassing, incessantly threatening them and the lives of their loved ones,
impostering, forging, and, gangstalking them, and, in all probability
wiretapping them.

Readers can rest assured that no one is filled with as much shock and awe
that Bush and his flying monkeys have corrupt government employees (current
and former), and, the felons and whackjobs they recruit, endeavoring to
contribute to the imprisonment, debilitation, and, even the death of
average, ordinary, apple-pie baking, stay at home, american "soccer
moms", then, the American stay-at-home, soccer moms, like yours truly,
whom, corrupt government employees (current and former), and, the felons
and whackjobs
whom they recruit are globally libeling, relentlessly harassing,
incessantly threatening, and, viciously gangstalking.


Unfortunately, the facts are irrefutable.

I am an ordinary, average, relatively insignificant, apple-pie baking,
stay at home, american "soccer mom".

A small but sizable group of corrupt government employees (current and
former), aided and abetted by a group of known felons and whackjobs, have
become so personally invested in contributing to my imprisonment,
debilitation, and death, they have been globally libeling, constantly
harassing, incessantly threatening, impostering, forging, hacking, and,
relentlessly gangstalking yours truly, a total stranger, for seven
uninterrupted years.

Most, if not all, of these corrupt government employees, known felons,
and, self-confessed whackjobs which comprise the group of persons who been
stalking yours truly for seven years, are serial stalkers etc, whose
stalking of others have made them the subject of repeated criminal
complaints with local, state and federal law enforcement agencies around
the US, and, the world.

Yet, the FBI has steadfastly refused to lift a finger to enforce US law and
protect the rights of US citizens from
what has been a remarkably stable group of gangstalkers, in the dozen or so
years since their crime victims began filing criminal complaints against
these people with local, state, federal and internationaly law enforcement
agencies.

The most plausible explanation for the FBI's steadfast refusal to prosecute
a relatively stable group of persons organized criminal serial gangstalking
of average, apple-pie baking, stay at home, american soccer moms is that
Bush and his flying monkeys assigned corrupt governement employees to
recruit known felons and whackjobs to serially gangstalk average, ordinary,
apple pie baking, stay at home, american soccer moms.

Naturally, Bush and his flying monkeys will DENY corrupt government
employees have been assigned to recruit known felons and whackjobs to commit
what amounts to MURDER against ordinary, average, apple-pie baking, stay
at home, american soccer moms.

But, Bush and his flying monkeys would be LYING,as usual.

I'm 99.9999% certain that it IS Bush and his flying monkeys who are having
average, ordinary, apple pie baking, stay at home, american "soccer
moms" picked off the information superhighway by corrupt governement
employees, and, the known felons and whackjobs they recruit.

My problem is I can't prove it....

Unless....

All the companies who willingly assisted Bush and his flying monkeys, such
as, the major telecom companies who willingly assisted Bush and his flying
monkeys illegally wiretap innocent americans are prosecuted, and, the
evidence of the illegal wiretapping of individuals is made available to the
targeted individuals.

Naturally, Bush and his flying monkeys are putting enormous pressure on
Congress to give
retroactive immunity to all the criminal rat bastards who illegally
wiretapped average, stay-at-home American "Soccer-Moms", to preclude the
crime victims of the Bush admin and the telecom companies from being able to
get their hands on the evidence they need to PROVE that average, ordinary,
apple pie baking, stay at home, american soccer moms figured prominently
amongst the persons whom Bush and his flying monkies had malicious stalked
and spied upon.

As Moveon asserts, the pending lawsuits against the major telecom companies
may be the only way the average american will ever find out just how far
Bush and his flying monkeys went in breaking the law.

Bush and his flying monkeys want to give the telecom companies retroactive
immunity to cover the arse of Bush and his flying monkeys.

The problem is, some Democrats want to help him do it.

Anyone who wants Bush and his flying monkeys impeached, prosecuted,
imprisoned, and/or executed for their war crimes, their looting of
America, their stealing America's children, and, their illegal
wiretapping, spying and stalking ordinary americans to their death needs to
let Congress know they want Congress to reject retroactive immunity for the
telecom companies who willingly assisted in the illegal wiretapping of
Americans

You can sign the Moveon.org petition that lets Congress know...here:

http://pol.moveon.org/noimmunity/

Thanks!
Frank
2007-11-27 06:02:12 UTC
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Post by indomitable2
For years, Bush and his flying monkeys have sought to protect Bush
and his flying monkeys from being impeached, prosecuted, imprisoned
and/or executed for their war crimes, their wholesale looting of
America, their widespread theft of America's children (especially in
Kansas), and, their making a complete mockery of the US
constitution, the bill of rights, religious faith, and, everything
else decent Americans hold near and dear, BY, corrupt government
employees (current and former) and, the army of felons and whackjobs
which corrupt government employees recruit, contributing to the
imprisonment, debilitation, and, inevitably the death of federal
whistleblowers, investigative journalists, and, patriotic
americans, most especially, America's domestic decision makers aka
apple-pie baking, stay at home "soccer moms", by, subjecting them to
a program of systematic torture consisting of globally libeling,
constantly harassing, incessantly threatening them and the lives of
their loved ones, impostering, forging, and, gangstalking them,
and, in all probability wiretapping them.
Readers can rest assured that no one is filled with as much shock and
awe that Bush and his flying monkeys have corrupt government employees
(current and former), and, the felons and whackjobs they recruit,
endeavoring to contribute to the imprisonment, debilitation, and,
even the death of average, ordinary, apple-pie baking, stay at
home, american "soccer moms", then, the American stay-at-home,
soccer moms, like yours truly, whom, corrupt government employees
(current and former), and, the felons and whackjobs
whom they recruit are globally libeling, relentlessly harassing,
incessantly threatening, and, viciously gangstalking.
Unfortunately, the facts are irrefutable.
I am an ordinary, average, relatively insignificant, apple-pie
baking, stay at home, american "soccer mom".
You lie. You are *no* American soccer mom, you boy never played soccer,
you never owned an SUV and you are on the dole. You are a nazi, jew
hating anti-American based on your recent posts.

Now grant you, your mind is slipping badly and you're starting to have
problems remembering from moment to moment, and grant you that you are
sometimes confused by your very own posts and other crap that you save
on your computers, but you are definitely *not* a soccer mom. Fact is,
your boy is too old to keep you in that classification. When he was
younger, he walked to school, you could not drive him. I do hope your
computers are in proper running order and that your "archives" have not
been modified to confuse what is left of that pea pickin brain of yours.

Snipped all the rest of your BS for now. Oddly, you rail against the
American gov't yet you want them to support you, your therapy costs,
your kids possible college until he drinks himself under the table like
his mom and gets tossed and you want them to persue the phantoms of your
mind. lol

BTW, what a pickle you are in, your son is now too old for welfare funds
so what are you going to do? Teach him to gamble at an Indian Casino
like his mom?

PS if you were an American you would have known better and spelled it
with a capital A you dumb Nazi loon.
marcia
2007-11-27 14:15:06 UTC
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Post by Frank
Post by indomitable2
For years, Bush and his flying monkeys have sought to protect Bush
and his flying monkeys from being impeached, prosecuted, imprisoned
and/or executed for their war crimes, their wholesale looting of
America, their widespread theft of America's children (especially in
Kansas), and, their making a complete mockery of the US
constitution, the bill of rights, religious faith, and, everything
else decent Americans hold near and dear, BY, corrupt government
employees (current and former) and, the army of felons and whackjobs
which corrupt government employees recruit, contributing to the
imprisonment, debilitation, and, inevitably the death of federal
whistleblowers, investigative journalists, and, patriotic
americans, most especially, America's domestic decision makers aka
apple-pie baking, stay at home "soccer moms", by, subjecting them to
a program of systematic torture consisting of globally libeling,
constantly harassing, incessantly threatening them and the lives of
their loved ones, impostering, forging, and, gangstalking them,
and, in all probability wiretapping them.
Readers can rest assured that no one is filled with as much shock and
awe that Bush and his flying monkeys have corrupt government employees
(current and former), and, the felons and whackjobs they recruit,
endeavoring to contribute to the imprisonment, debilitation, and,
even the death of average, ordinary, apple-pie baking, stay at
home, american "soccer moms", then, the American stay-at-home,
soccer moms, like yours truly, whom, corrupt government employees
(current and former), and, the felons and whackjobs
whom they recruit are globally libeling, relentlessly harassing,
incessantly threatening, and, viciously gangstalking.
Unfortunately, the facts are irrefutable.
I am an ordinary, average, relatively insignificant, apple-pie
baking, stay at home, american "soccer mom".
You lie. You are *no* American soccer mom, you boy never played soccer,
you never owned an SUV and you are on the dole. You are a nazi, jew
hating anti-American based on your recent posts.
Now grant you, your mind is slipping badly and you're starting to have
problems remembering from moment to moment, and grant you that you are
sometimes confused by your very own posts and other crap that you save
on your computers, but you are definitely *not* a soccer mom. Fact is,
your boy is too old to keep you in that classification. When he was
younger, he walked to school, you could not drive him. I do hope your
computers are in proper running order and that your "archives" have not
been modified to confuse what is left of that pea pickin brain of yours.
Snipped all the rest of your BS for now. Oddly, you rail against the
American gov't yet you want them to support you, your therapy costs,
your kids possible college until he drinks himself under the table like
his mom and gets tossed and you want them to persue the phantoms of your
mind. lol
BTW, what a pickle you are in, your son is now too old for welfare funds
so what are you going to do? Teach him to gamble at an Indian Casino
like his mom?
PS if you were an American you would have known better and spelled it
with a capital A you dumb Nazi loon.
idk, Frank. I'm starting to feel sorry for Linda. It's obvious she's
incorporating recent news stories into her delusions (Plame-Wilson),
and her mental capacity seems to be deteriorating rapidly. I don't
like the way she treats people, or the way she identifies with certain
hate groups, either, but I think she's becoming too pitiful to attack.
It seems she's become completely psychotic.
Frank
2007-11-28 00:15:43 UTC
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Post by marcia
Post by Frank
Post by indomitable2
For years, Bush and his flying monkeys have sought to protect Bush
and his flying monkeys from being impeached, prosecuted,
imprisoned
and/or executed for their war crimes, their wholesale looting of
America, their widespread theft of America's children (especially in
Kansas), and, their making a complete mockery of the US
constitution, the bill of rights, religious faith, and,
everything
else decent Americans hold near and dear, BY, corrupt government
employees (current and former) and, the army of felons and
whackjobs
which corrupt government employees recruit, contributing to the
imprisonment, debilitation, and, inevitably the death of federal
whistleblowers, investigative journalists, and, patriotic
americans, most especially, America's domestic decision makers aka
apple-pie baking, stay at home "soccer moms", by, subjecting them to
a program of systematic torture consisting of globally libeling,
constantly harassing, incessantly threatening them and the lives of
their loved ones, impostering, forging, and, gangstalking them,
and, in all probability wiretapping them.
Readers can rest assured that no one is filled with as much shock and
awe that Bush and his flying monkeys have corrupt government employees
(current and former), and, the felons and whackjobs they recruit,
endeavoring to contribute to the imprisonment, debilitation, and,
even the death of average, ordinary, apple-pie baking, stay at
home, american "soccer moms", then, the American stay-at-home,
soccer moms, like yours truly, whom, corrupt government employees
(current and former), and, the felons and whackjobs
whom they recruit are globally libeling, relentlessly harassing,
incessantly threatening, and, viciously gangstalking.
Unfortunately, the facts are irrefutable.
I am an ordinary, average, relatively insignificant, apple-pie
baking, stay at home, american "soccer mom".
You lie. You are *no* American soccer mom, you boy never played soccer,
you never owned an SUV and you are on the dole. You are a nazi, jew
hating anti-American based on your recent posts.
Now grant you, your mind is slipping badly and you're starting to have
problems remembering from moment to moment, and grant you that you are
sometimes confused by your very own posts and other crap that you save
on your computers, but you are definitely *not* a soccer mom. Fact is,
your boy is too old to keep you in that classification. When he was
younger, he walked to school, you could not drive him. I do hope your
computers are in proper running order and that your "archives" have not
been modified to confuse what is left of that pea pickin brain of yours.
Snipped all the rest of your BS for now. Oddly, you rail against the
American gov't yet you want them to support you, your therapy costs,
your kids possible college until he drinks himself under the table like
his mom and gets tossed and you want them to persue the phantoms of your
mind. lol
BTW, what a pickle you are in, your son is now too old for welfare funds
so what are you going to do? Teach him to gamble at an Indian Casino
like his mom?
PS if you were an American you would have known better and spelled it
with a capital A you dumb Nazi loon.
idk, Frank. I'm starting to feel sorry for Linda. It's obvious she's
incorporating recent news stories into her delusions (Plame-Wilson),
and her mental capacity seems to be deteriorating rapidly. I don't
like the way she treats people, or the way she identifies with certain
hate groups, either, but I think she's becoming too pitiful to attack.
It seems she's become completely psychotic.
I don't feel sorry, she force fed herself when sober of her own free
will, but the rest I agree with you on. I do however, feel sorry for her
son's misfortune, too bad his Dad was not the primary.
Liz
2007-11-27 16:14:09 UTC
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Post by Frank
Post by indomitable2
Unfortunately, the facts are irrefutable.
I am an ordinary, average, relatively insignificant, apple-pie
baking, stay at home, american "soccer mom".
You lie. You are *no* American soccer mom, you boy never played soccer,
you never owned an SUV and you are on the dole. You are a nazi, jew
hating anti-American based on your recent posts.
Now grant you, your mind is slipping badly and you're starting to have
problems remembering from moment to moment, and grant you that you are
sometimes confused by your very own posts and other crap that you save
on your computers, but you are definitely *not* a soccer mom. Fact is,
your boy is too old to keep you in that classification. When he was
younger, he walked to school, you could not drive him. I do hope your
computers are in proper running order and that your "archives" have not
been modified to confuse what is left of that pea pickin brain of yours.
Snipped all the rest of your BS for now. Oddly, you rail against the
American gov't yet you want them to support you, your therapy costs,
your kids possible college until he drinks himself under the table like
his mom and gets tossed and you want them to persue the phantoms of your
mind. lol
BTW, what a pickle you are in, your son is now too old for welfare funds
so what are you going to do? Teach him to gamble at an Indian Casino
like his mom?
PS if you were an American you would have known better and spelled it
with a capital A you dumb Nazi loon.
Pete, you're losing it.
Frank
2007-11-28 00:16:25 UTC
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Post by Liz
Post by Frank
Post by indomitable2
Unfortunately, the facts are irrefutable.
I am an ordinary, average, relatively insignificant, apple-pie
baking, stay at home, american "soccer mom".
You lie. You are *no* American soccer mom, you boy never played
soccer, you never owned an SUV and you are on the dole. You are a
nazi, jew hating anti-American based on your recent posts.
Now grant you, your mind is slipping badly and you're starting to
have problems remembering from moment to moment, and grant you that
you are sometimes confused by your very own posts and other crap that
you save on your computers, but you are definitely *not* a soccer
mom. Fact is, your boy is too old to keep you in that classification.
When he was younger, he walked to school, you could not drive him. I
do hope your computers are in proper running order and that your
"archives" have not been modified to confuse what is left of that pea
pickin brain of yours.
Snipped all the rest of your BS for now. Oddly, you rail against the
American gov't yet you want them to support you, your therapy costs,
your kids possible college until he drinks himself under the table
like his mom and gets tossed and you want them to persue the phantoms
of your mind. lol
BTW, what a pickle you are in, your son is now too old for welfare
funds so what are you going to do? Teach him to gamble at an Indian
Casino like his mom?
PS if you were an American you would have known better and spelled it
with a capital A you dumb Nazi loon.
Pete, you're losing it.
LOL, that's funny!
indomitable2
2007-11-28 02:26:25 UTC
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Post by Liz
Pete, you're losing it.
Ahem!

The success of corrupt government employees efforts to recruit known felons
and whackjobs to assist corrupt government employees in their efforts to
gang stalk targeted individual to their death, is a function of the corrupt
government employees ability to persuade the felons and whackjobs whom they
seek to recruit, that, the crimes which the corrupt government employees
are asking them to perpetrate are crimes which the recruite felons and
whackjobs will get away with perpetrating agaisnt their target.

The tactic which corrupt government employees have been utilizing to
persuade the felons and whackjobs they seek to recruit to assist them in
perpetrating crimes against their targets, is , their repetitious
publication of articles wherein the corrupt government employees manufacture
the public perception that their target is a member of the class of people
whom corrupt government employees refer to as the BUDs aka Broke, Useless,
Depressed, rather then, a member of the class of people whom corrupt
government employees refer to as the MPDs, aka Money, Power, Brains.

The message corrupt government employees seek to convey to the felons and
whackjobs whom they seek to recruit to perpetrate crimes against targeted
individuals is that nothing will ever come of their criminally libeling,
criminally harassing, criminally threatening, criminally forging,
criminally impostering, criminally hacking, and criminally stalking the
targeted individual, because, the targeted individual is too broke,
useless, stupid, whacked out, and/or depressed to commence civil and
criminal actions against the felons and whackjobs whom corrupt governement
employees prevail upon to perpetrate crimes against them.

Of course, the ruthlessness and complete lack of scruples of corrupt
government employees is such that in some instances corrupt government
employees did recruit felons and whackjobs to perpetrate crimes against
individuals who lacked both the financial and emotional resources to stand
up for their first amendment rights vis a vis corrupt governement employees
recruitment of felons and whackjobs to perpetrate crimes against them to
discourage their exercising their first amendment rights.

However, in all the cases which I am familiar with, all the corrupt
government employees had to do to silence the voices of denizens of the
information superhighway who lack financial and emotional resources to
commence civil and criminal proceedings against the corrupt governement
employees and the felons and whackjobs they recruit to perpetrate crimes
against them, was, to threaten to recruit a group of felons and whackjobs
to engage in criminal activities intended to deprive them of target of any
state assistance the target was entitled to.

Fortunately, for America, at least some of America's Volvo, Jeep, and
SUV driving, apple pie baking, stay at home, soccer moms who choose to
participate on the information superhighway are raising or have raised
child(ren) of the well-to-do, therefore, were not eligible for Welfare
Assistance To Families with Dependent Children, whilst staying at home,
baking apple pies, attending their children's school plays, church
programs, soccer and little league games: therefore, were persons whose
whose voices on the information superhighway could NOT be silenced by
corrupt government employees threatening to recruit felons and whackjobs to
engage in criminal activities intended to deprive them of their non-existing
Welfare for Families With Dependent Children.

Unfortunately, for the felons and whackjobs whom corrupt government
employees seek to recruit to perpetrate crimes against America's Volvo,
Jeep, and SUV driving, Apple Pie Baking, stay at home, soccer moms who
raised or are raising the child(ren) of the well to do---corrupt government
employees know darn well that they would have a harder time persuading
felons and whackjobs that nothing will ever come of any of the crimes
corrupt government employees prevail upon them to perpetrate aainst
America's Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie baking, stay at home,
soccer moms raising the child(ren) of the well to do; therefore, all
corrupt government employees repetitiously publish articles wherein they
make assertons to manufacture the false perception that ALL the government
whistleblowers, investigative journalists, and, patriotic americans, most
especially, all America's Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie
baking, stay at home, soccer moms raising children of the well to do,
whom corrupt government employees endeavor to silence on the information
superhighway lack the financial and emotional resources to commence civil
and criminal proceedings against the corrupt government employees and the
felons and whackjobs they recruit to perpetrate crimes against innocent
others, whether or not it's true.

Corrupt government employees bank on the fact, that, if anyone is
prosecuted for crimes perpetarted against their targets, it will be all the
felons and whackjobs whom the corrupt government employees recruited to do
the dirty work, not, the corrupt government employees who solicited, and
facilitated the crimes they prevailed on the felons and whackjobs to
perpetrate.

As a result, none of the corrupt government employees give a rat's arss if
anyone is prosecuted for the crimes perpetrated against their
targets---because, they believe if anyone is prosecuted for the crimes it
will be the felons and whackjobs they recrut, rather then themsleves.

All any of these corrupt government employees picking off civilians on the
information superhighway have ever cared about is protecting corrupt
government employees from the consequences of thier poor choices, BY,
contributing to the imprisonment, debilitation, and death of government
whistleblowers, investigative journalists, and, patriotic americans, most
especially, the group of people who are the heart and soul of patriosm in
America, e.g. all the Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie baking,
stay at home, american soccer moms raising american child(ren), most
especially, those raising the children of the well to do.

Last I heard, the approval rating of Bush, his flying monkeys, and,
corrupt government employees
and, their corrupt contractors has sunk to 11%.

It is NO coincidence that 11% is approximately the same percentage of
corrupt govenment employees and employees of government contractors who been
vying for front seats at the Spoils table to get a share of the money which
Bush and his flying monkeys are looting from americans.

One of the many BIG LIES which Bush, his flying monkeys, and, corrupt
employees of the Bush Administration have been floating to discourage
American dissent against Bush, his flying monkeys and corrupt government
employees torture of innocent people is the BIG FAT LIE that all the
American's military soldiers who are fighting in Iraq and Dafir are sons
and daughters of the BUD's or Broke, Useless, and Depressed, rather then,
the MPD's, or, Money, Power, and Brains.

AS IF, the sons and daughters of whom Bush, his flying monkeys, and
corrupt government employees all refer to as the "Broke, Useless, and
Depressed" would sign up to serve in the US military, rather than, make
$100,000 plus doing the same sort of thing as an psychokiller employed by
Blackwater, Inc.

No matter what small percentage of US military personnel being deployed to
fight in Iraq and Dafir are the sons and daughters of whomever it is whom
Bush and Co call the BUD's or Broke, Useless, and Depressed, each and
every one of them take their orders from commanding officers who are,
overwhelmingly, the sons and daughters of the MPD, or, those with money,
power, and brains.

And, it is those commanding officers, IOW, the sons and daughters of the
MPD, or those with money, power and brains, who will suffer the brunt of
the horrible torture which captured American military personnel are
subjected to in retribution for the torture Bush, and his flying monkeys,
and corrupt government employees, and, contractors are perpetrating against
innocent people around the globe.

Some of America's Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie baking, stay
at home, soccer moms (current and former) don't even know whose life is in
more danger: child(ren) residing in their home, whose lives are constantly
THREATENED by corrupt government employees, and, the felons and whackjobs
they recruit, or, their sibling fighting for their country in Iraq or
Dafir etc.

Worse....

If the sibling fighting for America in Iraq or Dafir is in the most
danger....who are they in the most danger from, the Iraqi's and rebels in
Dafir....or, psychokillers employed by Blackwater, Inc.???

Cute, eh?

Corrupt government employees want all the felons and whackjobs on the
information superhighway whom they seek to recruit to falsely believe that
corrupt government employees are targeting the broke, useless, and
depressed.

In reality, Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie baking, stay at
home, American soccer moms (current and former) are and always have been
corrupt government employees primary targets, third only to, `1`)
government whistleblowers, and, 2) investigative journalists.

Because,

it's their families wealth whom Bush, his flying monkeys, and, corrupt
government employees are LOOTING so there's enough LOOT to satisfy the
greedy demands of all the corrupt government employees and contractors vying
for front seats at the spoils table.

It's their fathers, and, their and their friends sons and daughters,
nieces and nephews, etc. who serve as commanding officers; therefore, are
the US military personnel who are poised to take the brunt of other
countries retribution against American military personnel as a result of
Bush, his Flying Monkeys, and, corrupt government employees TORTURING
people around the globe.

Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie baking, stay at home, American
soccer moms (current and former) are the domestic decision makers;
therefore, the persons primarily making the decisions wrt consumption of
the shoddy goods and services, which Bush, his flying monkeys, and
corrupt government employees help corrupt internationaly corporations HYPE
on the information superhighway.

It's America's Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie baking, stay at
home, American soccer moms (current and former) who have been flocking to
the information superhighway to inquire about medical condtions and their
treatments.

The only readers who don't realize that corrupt government employees and
their corrupt counterparts in Big Biz ala "Mrs. or Mr. Drug Co. Rep"...are
and have been recruiting felons and whackjobs to pick off and silence
America's Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie baking, stay at home,
American soccer moms (current and former) are readers with their eyes wide
shut.

Oops!

I forgot!

The criminal activities of corrupt government employees, and, their
corrupt counterparts in Big Biz "Mr. or Mrs. Drug Co. Representatives"
has resulted in there being very few readers in the forums they infiltrate,
besides, the corrupt government employees, corrupt counterparts in Big Biz
ala Mr. or Mrs. Drug Co. Rep, and, the felons and whackjobs they recruit
to perpetrate crimes against A) government whistleblowers, 2)Investigative
journalists, 3) Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie baking, stay at
home, american "soccer moms" (current and former), in that order,
respectively.

In any case, Bush and his flying monkeys LOOTING America's MPB's, or,
citizens with Money, Power, and Brains, doesn't arm Bush, and his flying
moneys, with enough LOOT to satisfy the demands of the Greedy sons and
daughters of the BUD's, or, the broke, useless, and depressed, who are
primarily the people who have been vying for seats at the $Poils table Bush
and his flying monkeys have set for both Koochers killers and Blackwaters
Psychokillers.

Hence, Bush and his flying monkeys are borrowing 2.2 billion dollars per
day from Japan and China in order to meet the greedy demands of sons and
daughters of the BUD's, such as, Koochers KILLERS and Blackwaters
Psychokillers, vying for front seats at the spoils table.

A pity very few of Koochers KILLERS and Blackwaters Psychokillers have the
brains to put their illgotten spoils in precious metals, other currencies,
offshore accounts, etc...before their blood money isn't worth the paper
it's printed on.

Nor, invest it in land in Paraguay....as the grapevine say their
benefector-in-chief has done (200,000 acres).

Congress needs to hold Bush, his flying monkeys, and corrupt government
employees and, government contractors such as Koochers KILLERS and
Blackwaters Psychokillers accountable for all the crimes they perpetrated
against Americans, and, those abroad....before, the criminal rat bastards
take all the LOOT they've looted america of, and, they hightail it to
Paraguay or places unknown.

Bush, his flying monkeys, and, corrupt government employees "Say" they lost
5 million emails which US congress subpoenaed to obtain evidence need to
prosecute Bush, his flying monkeys, and, corrupt government employees for
their war crimes, and, their ILLEGAL stalking and spying on their primay
targets...A)Government whistleblowers, B) Investigative Journalists, C),
Volvo, Jeep, and SUV Driving, apple pie baking, stay at home, American
"soccer moms" (current and former).

The lawsuits pending against the major telecom companies
may be the only way LOOTED America will ever find out just how far
Bush and his flying monkeys went in breaking the law wrt his stalking and
spying on Government whistleblowers, investigative journalists, and,
incredulously, America's Volvo, Jeep, and SUV Driving, apple pie
baking, stay at home, "soccer moms" (current and former.

Bush, his flying monkeys, and corrupt government employees want to give the
telecom companies retroactive immunity to cover Bush, his flying monkeys,
and corrupt government employees and contractors ARSES.

The problem is, some Democrats want to help him do it.

Anyone who wants Bush and his flying monkeys impeached, prosecuted,
imprisoned, and/or executed for their war crimes, their looting of
America, their stealing America's children, and, their illegal
wiretapping, spying and stalking ordinary americans to their death needs to
let Congress know they want Congress to reject retroactive immunity for the
telecom companies who willingly assisted in the illegal wiretapping of
Americans

You can sign the Moveon.org petition that lets Congress know...here:

http://pol.moveon.org/noimmunity/

Thanks!
Frank
2007-11-28 04:40:04 UTC
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Post by indomitable2
Post by Liz
Pete, you're losing it.
Ahem!
The success of corrupt government employees efforts to recruit known
felons and whackjobs to assist corrupt government employees in their
efforts to gang stalk targeted individual to their death, is a
function of the corrupt government employees ability to persuade the
felons and whackjobs whom they seek to recruit, that, the crimes
which the corrupt government employees are asking them to perpetrate
are crimes which the recruite felons and whackjobs will get away with
perpetrating agaisnt their target.
The tactic which corrupt government employees have been utilizing to
persuade the felons and whackjobs they seek to recruit to assist them
in perpetrating crimes against their targets, is , their repetitious
publication of articles wherein the corrupt government employees
manufacture the public perception that their target is a member of
the class of people whom corrupt government employees refer to as the
BUDs aka Broke, Useless, Depressed, rather then, a member of the
class of people whom corrupt government employees refer to as the
MPDs, aka Money, Power, Brains.
The message corrupt government employees seek to convey to the felons
and whackjobs whom they seek to recruit to perpetrate crimes against
targeted individuals is that nothing will ever come of their
criminally libeling, criminally harassing, criminally threatening,
criminally forging, criminally impostering, criminally hacking, and
criminally stalking the targeted individual, because, the targeted
individual is too broke, useless, stupid, whacked out, and/or
depressed to commence civil and criminal actions against the felons
and whackjobs whom corrupt governement employees prevail upon to
perpetrate crimes against them.
Of course, the ruthlessness and complete lack of scruples of corrupt
government employees is such that in some instances corrupt government
employees did recruit felons and whackjobs to perpetrate crimes
against individuals who lacked both the financial and emotional
resources to stand up for their first amendment rights vis a vis
corrupt governement employees recruitment of felons and whackjobs to
perpetrate crimes against them to discourage their exercising their
first amendment rights.
However, in all the cases which I am familiar with, all the corrupt
government employees had to do to silence the voices of denizens of
the information superhighway who lack financial and emotional
resources to commence civil and criminal proceedings against the
corrupt governement employees and the felons and whackjobs they
recruit to perpetrate crimes against them, was, to threaten to
recruit a group of felons and whackjobs to engage in criminal
activities intended to deprive them of target of any state assistance
the target was entitled to.
Fortunately, for America, at least some of America's Volvo, Jeep,
and SUV driving, apple pie baking, stay at home, soccer moms who
choose to participate on the information superhighway are raising or
have raised child(ren) of the well-to-do, therefore, were not
eligible for Welfare Assistance To Families with Dependent Children,
whilst staying at home, baking apple pies, attending their children's
therefore, were persons whose whose voices on the information
superhighway could NOT be silenced by corrupt government employees
threatening to recruit felons and whackjobs to engage in criminal
activities intended to deprive them of their non-existing Welfare for
Families With Dependent Children.
Unfortunately, for the felons and whackjobs whom corrupt government
employees seek to recruit to perpetrate crimes against America's
Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, Apple Pie Baking, stay at home,
soccer moms who raised or are raising the child(ren) of the well to
do---corrupt government employees know darn well that they would have
a harder time persuading felons and whackjobs that nothing will ever
come of any of the crimes corrupt government employees prevail upon
them to perpetrate aainst America's Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving,
apple pie baking, stay at home, soccer moms raising the child(ren)
of the well to do; therefore, all corrupt government employees
repetitiously publish articles wherein they make assertons to
manufacture the false perception that ALL the government
whistleblowers, investigative journalists, and, patriotic americans,
most especially, all America's Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, apple
pie baking, stay at home, soccer moms raising children of the well
to do, whom corrupt government employees endeavor to silence on the
information superhighway lack the financial and emotional resources to
commence civil and criminal proceedings against the corrupt government
employees and the felons and whackjobs they recruit to perpetrate
crimes against innocent others, whether or not it's true.
Corrupt government employees bank on the fact, that, if anyone is
prosecuted for crimes perpetarted against their targets, it will be
all the felons and whackjobs whom the corrupt government employees
recruited to do the dirty work, not, the corrupt government
employees who solicited, and facilitated the crimes they prevailed on
the felons and whackjobs to perpetrate.
As a result, none of the corrupt government employees give a rat's
arss if anyone is prosecuted for the crimes perpetrated against their
targets---because, they believe if anyone is prosecuted for the
crimes it will be the felons and whackjobs they recrut, rather then
themsleves.
All any of these corrupt government employees picking off civilians on
the information superhighway have ever cared about is protecting
corrupt government employees from the consequences of thier poor
choices, BY, contributing to the imprisonment, debilitation, and
death of government whistleblowers, investigative journalists, and,
patriotic americans, most especially, the group of people who are
the heart and soul of patriosm in America, e.g. all the Volvo,
Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie baking, stay at home, american
soccer moms raising american child(ren), most especially, those
raising the children of the well to do.
Last I heard, the approval rating of Bush, his flying monkeys, and,
corrupt government employees
and, their corrupt contractors has sunk to 11%.
It is NO coincidence that 11% is approximately the same percentage of
corrupt govenment employees and employees of government contractors
who been vying for front seats at the Spoils table to get a share of
the money which Bush and his flying monkeys are looting from
americans.
One of the many BIG LIES which Bush, his flying monkeys, and,
corrupt employees of the Bush Administration have been floating to
discourage American dissent against Bush, his flying monkeys and
corrupt government employees torture of innocent people is the BIG FAT
LIE that all the American's military soldiers who are fighting in Iraq
and Dafir are sons and daughters of the BUD's or Broke, Useless,
and Depressed, rather then, the MPD's, or, Money, Power, and
Brains.
AS IF, the sons and daughters of whom Bush, his flying monkeys,
and corrupt government employees all refer to as the "Broke, Useless,
and Depressed" would sign up to serve in the US military, rather
than, make $100,000 plus doing the same sort of thing as an
psychokiller employed by Blackwater, Inc.
No matter what small percentage of US military personnel being
deployed to fight in Iraq and Dafir are the sons and daughters of
whomever it is whom Bush and Co call the BUD's or Broke, Useless, and
Depressed, each and every one of them take their orders from
commanding officers who are, overwhelmingly, the sons and daughters
of the MPD, or, those with money, power, and brains.
And, it is those commanding officers, IOW, the sons and daughters
of the MPD, or those with money, power and brains, who will suffer
the brunt of the horrible torture which captured American military
personnel are subjected to in retribution for the torture Bush, and
his flying monkeys, and corrupt government employees, and, contractors
are perpetrating against innocent people around the globe.
Some of America's Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie baking,
stay at home, soccer moms (current and former) don't even know whose
life is in more danger: child(ren) residing in their home, whose
lives are constantly THREATENED by corrupt government employees, and,
the felons and whackjobs they recruit, or, their sibling fighting
for their country in Iraq or Dafir etc.
Worse....
If the sibling fighting for America in Iraq or Dafir is in the most
danger....who are they in the most danger from, the Iraqi's and
rebels in Dafir....or, psychokillers employed by Blackwater, Inc.???
Cute, eh?
Corrupt government employees want all the felons and whackjobs on the
information superhighway whom they seek to recruit to falsely believe
that corrupt government employees are targeting the broke, useless,
and depressed.
In reality, Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie baking, stay
at home, American soccer moms (current and former) are and always
have been corrupt government employees primary targets, third only
to, `1`) government whistleblowers, and, 2) investigative
journalists.
Because,
it's their families wealth whom Bush, his flying monkeys, and,
corrupt government employees are LOOTING so there's enough LOOT to
satisfy the greedy demands of all the corrupt government employees and
contractors vying for front seats at the spoils table.
It's their fathers, and, their and their friends sons and daughters,
nieces and nephews, etc. who serve as commanding officers; therefore,
are the US military personnel who are poised to take the brunt of
other countries retribution against American military personnel as a
result of Bush, his Flying Monkeys, and, corrupt government
employees TORTURING people around the globe.
Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie baking, stay at home,
American soccer moms (current and former) are the domestic decision
makers; therefore, the persons primarily making the decisions wrt
consumption of the shoddy goods and services, which Bush, his flying
monkeys, and corrupt government employees help corrupt internationaly
corporations HYPE on the information superhighway.
It's America's Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie baking,
stay at home, American soccer moms (current and former) who have been
flocking to the information superhighway to inquire about medical
condtions and their treatments.
The only readers who don't realize that corrupt government employees
and their corrupt counterparts in Big Biz ala "Mrs. or Mr. Drug Co.
Rep"...are and have been recruiting felons and whackjobs to pick off
and silence America's Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie
baking, stay at home, American soccer moms (current and former) are
readers with their eyes wide shut.
Oops!
I forgot!
The criminal activities of corrupt government employees, and, their
corrupt counterparts in Big Biz "Mr. or Mrs. Drug Co.
Representatives" has resulted in there being very few readers in the
forums they infiltrate, besides, the corrupt government employees,
corrupt counterparts in Big Biz ala Mr. or Mrs. Drug Co. Rep, and,
the felons and whackjobs they recruit to perpetrate crimes against A)
government whistleblowers, 2)Investigative journalists, 3) Volvo,
Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie baking, stay at home, american
"soccer moms" (current and former), in that order, respectively.
In any case, Bush and his flying monkeys LOOTING America's MPB's,
or, citizens with Money, Power, and Brains, doesn't arm Bush, and
his flying moneys, with enough LOOT to satisfy the demands of the
Greedy sons and daughters of the BUD's, or, the broke, useless,
and depressed, who are primarily the people who have been vying for
seats at the $Poils table Bush and his flying monkeys have set for
both Koochers killers and Blackwaters Psychokillers.
Hence, Bush and his flying monkeys are borrowing 2.2 billion dollars
per day from Japan and China in order to meet the greedy demands of
sons and daughters of the BUD's, such as, Koochers KILLERS and
Blackwaters Psychokillers, vying for front seats at the spoils table.
A pity very few of Koochers KILLERS and Blackwaters Psychokillers have
the brains to put their illgotten spoils in precious metals, other
currencies, offshore accounts, etc...before their blood money isn't
worth the paper it's printed on.
Nor, invest it in land in Paraguay....as the grapevine say their
benefector-in-chief has done (200,000 acres).
Congress needs to hold Bush, his flying monkeys, and corrupt
government employees and, government contractors such as Koochers
KILLERS and Blackwaters Psychokillers accountable for all the crimes
they perpetrated against Americans, and, those abroad....before,
the criminal rat bastards take all the LOOT they've looted america of,
and, they hightail it to Paraguay or places unknown.
Bush, his flying monkeys, and, corrupt government employees "Say"
they lost 5 million emails which US congress subpoenaed to obtain
evidence need to prosecute Bush, his flying monkeys, and, corrupt
government employees for their war crimes, and, their ILLEGAL
stalking and spying on their primay targets...A)Government
whistleblowers, B) Investigative Journalists, C), Volvo, Jeep, and
SUV Driving, apple pie baking, stay at home, American "soccer moms"
(current and former).
The lawsuits pending against the major telecom companies
may be the only way LOOTED America will ever find out just how far
Bush and his flying monkeys went in breaking the law wrt his stalking
and spying on Government whistleblowers, investigative journalists,
and, incredulously, America's Volvo, Jeep, and SUV Driving, apple
pie baking, stay at home, "soccer moms" (current and former.
Bush, his flying monkeys, and corrupt government employees want to
give the telecom companies retroactive immunity to cover Bush, his
flying monkeys, and corrupt government employees and contractors
ARSES.
The problem is, some Democrats want to help him do it.
Anyone who wants Bush and his flying monkeys impeached, prosecuted,
imprisoned, and/or executed for their war crimes, their looting of
America, their stealing America's children, and, their illegal
wiretapping, spying and stalking ordinary americans to their death needs to
let Congress know they want Congress to reject retroactive immunity for the
telecom companies who willingly assisted in the illegal wiretapping of
Americans
Thanks!
Archived forever on Google servers.

Proof of what happens to your mind when "Koochers Kooks" have won.
Beware, you could be next. lol

You just have to love the phrase, "spying and stalking ordinary
americans to their death"
HPVTS OA
2007-11-28 07:41:33 UTC
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Post by Frank
Archived forever on Google servers
Wow that's brutal.. you don't pull punches doya *stoopid*


Haveya ever considered life without Linda huh? why not give
your love a break and just have a monogamous relationship
with your index finger for a while






--

HPVTS OA
*I* care
indomitable2
2007-11-28 17:40:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by HPVTS OA
Post by Frank
Archived forever on Google servers
Wow that's brutal.. you don't pull punches doya *stoopid*
Haveya ever considered life without Linda huh? why not give
your love a break and just have a monogamous relationship
with your index finger for a while
The disconnect between Bush, His Flying Monkeys, corrupt government
employees and contractors and all Americans who are not employed by
government
or government contractors is very real.

The overwhelming majority of Americans want Bush, His Flying Monkeys,
corrupt government employees and contractors prosecuted for their crimes.

The proof is that America's % of americans who approve of Congress, or, the
group of persons whom are vested with the authority to investigate and
prosecute Bush, his flying monkeys, and, corrupt government employees and
government contractors is even lower then the approval
rating of the criminal rat bastards in the executive branch.

Apparentley, US Senators and US Congressman are unaware of the historical
fact that it was NOT the mentally ill nor the Jewish people whom the Third
Reich imprisoned first, it was the POLITICIANS whom the third reich
imprisoned, interrogated and tortured first.

Anyone who feels Congress is failing to fulfil their duties to the
electorate by their failure to hold Bush, his flying monkeys, corrupt
government employees and contractors accountable for their crimes can let
Congress know their sentiments via Moveon's petition demanding Congress hold
Bush, his flying monkeys, corrupt government employees and contractors
accountable for their crimes.

You can sign the Moveon.org petition that lets Congress know...here:

http://pol.moveon.org/noimmunity/

Thanks!

PS:

Bush, his flying monkeys, corrupt government employees and contractors are
employing the Method of Torture which the North Koreans had utilized against
those possessing nothing but contempt for criminal rat bastards seeking to
elevate civil *servants* to a position vis a vis the public whom employs
civil servants, to a position which civil servants aren't entitled to have:
power over the public who employs them as their servants.

I suspect all the criminal rat bastard stalking me who archive my political
speech are anticipating that the crimes which the criminal rat bastards will
perpetrate to elevate america's class of civil *servants" to a position of
absolute power over the american people whom employs all such civil
*servants" will include the imprisonment, interrogation nee torture of
American taxpayers who object to America's class of civil servants elevating
themselves to a position of absolute power of the american public whom
employers to enable America's class of civil servants to finish looting
america, stealing their children, and, making a mockery of everything
American's hold near and dear.

Anyone who doesn't know what the future will include if Bush, his flying
monkeys, and corrupt government employees and contractors aren't prosecuted
for the crimes they perpetrated here and now, can read about it here.

http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.


North Korea Interrogation and Torture:

Interrogation
***************
***** The standard practice appears to be that those suspected of
'political crimes' (including minor actions which are interpreted as
showing insufficient respect) are detained and interrogated by the
State Security Agency. Some detainees describe being held at three
levels of the SSA system, namely, central government, province and
district or city levels.*****


Torture
**********
*****Interrogation routinely involves many forms of brutal and
horrific torture. Evidence obtained includes accounts of three
different types of water torture, severe beatings, sexual assault and
violation, as well as psychological and verbal abuse. Sleep
deprivation is a common tactic, which both victims and torturers have
commented is especially effective in interrogation. In some serious
cases this is induced through water torture where sleep is impossible
without drowning. Other cruel treatment includes suspending detainees
by their wrists from the ceiling or from bars, using blocks, guns,
holsters, metal poles and wooden pokers, as well as fists and boots,
to inflict terrible pain and injuries, and the insertion of objects
into the body, including the vagina.


Even outside the torture rooms, violence can be fierce. Those in the
cells who are deemed to be moving without permission have been forced
to put their hands through the bars of the door, where the guard
mercilessly beats or stamps on them until they are bleeding and the
skin is shredded. A prisoner detained for a minor offence described
the condition of one of his fellow inmates who had been placed in a
special punishment chamber. He described the man as looking completely
black where he still had skin, but that much of his skin on his face
was missing, and all he could see were his eyes. The man was still
alive, though barely clinging to his life.


After the interrogation and torture in the SSA detention facilities a
decision is made as to which form of punishment will be imposed. No
case was heard in which a person accused of a political crime was
released from detention after this process of interrogation *****
-----


And, lots worse

http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.
Linda
2007-11-28 18:36:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by HPVTS OA
Haveya ever considered life without Linda huh? why not give
your love a break and just have a monogamous relationship
with your index finger for a while
The disconnect between Bush, His Flying Monkeys, corrupt government
employees and contractors , and, Americans who are not employed by
government or government contractors is very real.

The overwhelming majority of Americans want Bush, His Flying Monkeys,
corrupt government employees and contractors prosecuted for their
crimes.

The proof is the % of americans who approve of Congress, or, the
group of persons who are vested with the authority to investigate
and
prosecute Bush, his flying monkeys, and, corrupt government
employees and government contractors is even lower then the approval
rating of the criminal rat bastards in the executive branch.

Apparentley, US Senators and US Congressman are unaware of the
historical fact that it was NOT the mentally ill nor the Jewish people
whom the Third Reich imprisoned first, it was the POLITICIANS whom
the third reich imprisoned, interrogated and tortured first.

Anyone who feels Congress is failing to fulfil their duties to the
electorate by their failure to hold Bush, his flying monkeys,
corrupt
government employees and contractors accountable for their crimes can
let Congress know their sentiments via Moveon's petition demanding
Congress hold Bush, his flying monkeys, corrupt government employees
and contractors accountable for their crimes.

You can sign the Moveon.org petition that lets Congress know...here:

http://pol.moveon.org/noimmunity/

Thanks!


PS:

Bush, his flying monkeys, corrupt government employees and
contractors are employing the Method of Torture which North Koreans
had utilized against citizens possessing contempt for criminal rat
bastards seeking to elevate civil *servants* to a position vis a vis
the public whom employs civil servants, to a position which civil
servants aren't entitled to have: power over the public who employs
them as servants.

I suspect all the criminal rat bastard stalking me who archive my
political speech are anticipating that the crimes which the criminal
rat bastards will perpetrate to elevate america's class of civil
*servants" to a position of absolute power over the american people
whom employs the civil servants will include imprisonment,
interrogation nee torture of
American Citizens who strenously object to America's class of civil
servants elevating themselves to a position of absolute power over the
american citizens whom employe them to enable the only servant class
in america, civil servants, to finish their wholesale looting of
America, finish stealling every child in america, and, finish
making a complete mockery of everything American's hold near and
dear, including, but not limited to the US constitution, Bill of
Rights, etc.

Anyone who doesn't know what the future will include if Bush, his
flying
monkeys, and corrupt government employees and contractors aren't
prosecuted
for the crimes they perpetrated here and now, can read all about it
here.

http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.

North Korea Interrogation and Torture:

Interrogation
***************
***** The standard practice appears to be that those suspected of
'political crimes' (including minor actions which are interpreted as
showing insufficient respect) are detained and interrogated by the
State Security Agency. Some detainees describe being held at three
levels of the SSA system, namely, central government, province and
district or city levels.*****


Torture
**********
*****Interrogation routinely involves many forms of brutal and
horrific torture. Evidence obtained includes accounts of three
different types of water torture, severe beatings, sexual assault and
violation, as well as psychological and verbal abuse. Sleep
deprivation is a common tactic, which both victims and torturers have
commented is especially effective in interrogation. In some serious
cases this is induced through water torture where sleep is impossible
without drowning. Other cruel treatment includes suspending detainees
by their wrists from the ceiling or from bars, using blocks, guns,
holsters, metal poles and wooden pokers, as well as fists and boots,
to inflict terrible pain and injuries, and the insertion of objects
into the body, including the vagina.


Even outside the torture rooms, violence can be fierce. Those in the
cells who are deemed to be moving without permission have been forced
to put their hands through the bars of the door, where the guard
mercilessly beats or stamps on them until they are bleeding and the
skin is shredded. A prisoner detained for a minor offence described
the condition of one of his fellow inmates who had been placed in a
special punishment chamber. He described the man as looking
completely
black where he still had skin, but that much of his skin on his face
was missing, and all he could see were his eyes. The man was still
alive, though barely clinging to his life.


After the interrogation and torture in the SSA detention facilities a
decision is made as to which form of punishment will be imposed. No
case was heard in which a person accused of a political crime was
released from detention after this process of interrogation *****
-----

And, lots worse

http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.
Post by HPVTS OA
--
HPVTS OA
*I* care
Frank
2007-11-28 23:58:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by indomitable2
Post by HPVTS OA
Haveya ever considered life without Linda huh? why not give
your love a break and just have a monogamous relationship
with your index finger for a while
The disconnect between Bush, His Flying Monkeys, corrupt government
employees and contractors , and, Americans who are not employed by
government or government contractors is very real.
The overwhelming majority of Americans want Bush, His Flying Monkeys,
corrupt government employees and contractors prosecuted for their
crimes.
The proof is the % of americans who approve of Congress, or, the
group of persons who are vested with the authority to investigate
and
prosecute Bush, his flying monkeys, and, corrupt government
employees and government contractors is even lower then the approval
rating of the criminal rat bastards in the executive branch.
Apparentley, US Senators and US Congressman are unaware of the
historical fact that it was NOT the mentally ill nor the Jewish people
whom the Third Reich imprisoned first, it was the POLITICIANS whom
the third reich imprisoned, interrogated and tortured first.
Anyone who feels Congress is failing to fulfil their duties to the
electorate by their failure to hold Bush, his flying monkeys,
corrupt
government employees and contractors accountable for their crimes can
let Congress know their sentiments via Moveon's petition demanding
Congress hold Bush, his flying monkeys, corrupt government employees
and contractors accountable for their crimes.
http://pol.moveon.org/noimmunity/
Thanks!
Bush, his flying monkeys, corrupt government employees and
contractors are employing the Method of Torture which North Koreans
had utilized against citizens possessing contempt for criminal rat
bastards seeking to elevate civil *servants* to a position vis a vis
the public whom employs civil servants, to a position which civil
servants aren't entitled to have: power over the public who employs
them as servants.
I suspect all the criminal rat bastard stalking me who archive my
political speech are anticipating that the crimes which the criminal
rat bastards will perpetrate to elevate america's class of civil
*servants" to a position of absolute power over the american people
whom employs the civil servants will include imprisonment,
interrogation nee torture of
American Citizens who strenously object to America's class of civil
servants elevating themselves to a position of absolute power over the
american citizens whom employe them to enable the only servant class
in america, civil servants, to finish their wholesale looting of
America, finish stealling every child in america, and, finish
making a complete mockery of everything American's hold near and
dear, including, but not limited to the US constitution, Bill of
Rights, etc.
Anyone who doesn't know what the future will include if Bush, his
flying
monkeys, and corrupt government employees and contractors aren't
prosecuted
for the crimes they perpetrated here and now, can read all about it
here.
Notice Linda's support for commie countries
Post by indomitable2
http://www.prayfornorthkore
Interrogation
***************
***** The standard practice appears to be that those suspected of
'political crimes' (including minor actions which are interpreted as
showing insufficient respect) are detained and interrogated by the
State Security Agency. Some detainees describe being held at three
levels of the SSA system, namely, central government, province and
district or city levels.*****
Torture
**********
*****Interrogation routinely involves many forms of brutal and
horrific torture. Evidence obtained includes accounts of three
different types of water torture, severe beatings, sexual assault and
violation, as well as psychological and verbal abuse. Sleep
deprivation is a common tactic, which both victims and torturers have
commented is especially effective in interrogation. In some serious
cases this is induced through water torture where sleep is impossible
without drowning. Other cruel treatment includes suspending detainees
by their wrists from the ceiling or from bars, using blocks, guns,
holsters, metal poles and wooden pokers, as well as fists and boots,
to inflict terrible pain and injuries, and the insertion of objects
into the body, including the vagina.
Even outside the torture rooms, violence can be fierce. Those in the
cells who are deemed to be moving without permission have been forced
to put their hands through the bars of the door, where the guard
mercilessly beats or stamps on them until they are bleeding and the
skin is shredded. A prisoner detained for a minor offence described
the condition of one of his fellow inmates who had been placed in a
special punishment chamber. He described the man as looking
completely
black where he still had skin, but that much of his skin on his face
was missing, and all he could see were his eyes. The man was still
alive, though barely clinging to his life.
After the interrogation and torture in the SSA detention facilities a
decision is made as to which form of punishment will be imposed. No
case was heard in which a person accused of a political crime was
released from detention after this process of interrogation *****
-----
And, lots worse
http://www.>
Post by HPVTS OA
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*I* care
HPVTS OA
2007-11-29 08:27:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by Frank
Notice Linda's support for commie countries
Do *you* ever see any commies under your bed *stoopid* huh ?




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*I* care
Linda
2007-11-29 18:58:02 UTC
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Post by HPVTS OA
Post by Frank
Notice Linda's support for commie countries
Do *you* ever see any commies under your bed *stoopid* huh ?
(All the commie rat bsatards criminally stalking, spying upon, and
illegally wiretapping patriotic americans do.

After all, commie rat bsatards PROJECT like everyone else.)

In case you aren't aware of it, it was three communist Russians
employed by the US government (which communists, Russians and
otherwise) have thoroughly corrupted), who were amongs the first
criminal rat bsatards whose government jobs the AUK and SPP Criminal
Stalking Ring sought to protect, by, the AUK and SPP Criminal
Stalking Rings publishing articles in which they falsely depicted
their three communist comrades as "victims" to manufacture a false
pretext for their exacting retribution against patriotic americans for
reporting the commies for misappropriating technical resources
americans furnished them with to perform their government jobs to
cyberharass patriotic americans.

The commies rat bsatards who comprise the AUK and SPP Criminal
Stalking Ring didn't endeavor to protect the names of all the commies
involved in the founding of the FMSF, holding public office in US
border cities turning a blind eye to commie human trafficing, etc,
BY, their relentless stalking of Diana Napolis, a patriotic american
who quit her government job rather then continue to be part of San
Diego County Officialdom turning a blind eye to San Diego County being
transformed into a port for commies trafficing of children, until, a
few years AFTER the commies in the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Ring
succeeded in protecting the government jobs of commies like Dmitry
Pruss.

Wake up and smell the coffee!

Commies wrote the book on all this helter skelter type BS the AUK and
SPP Criminal Stalking Rings have been engaging in to protect commies
employed in the US government the commies have corrupted, BY,
contributing to the imprisonment, debilitation, and death of
Patriotic Americans.

The two commie rat bsatrads, (Viet Cong and Russian) who authored
what's known as the US Patriot Act, named it the Patriot Act to mock
the patriotic americans whom the commie bsatards who have corrupted
the US Government enacted the law to stalk and spy on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_Dinh

America wouldn't have all those Gulags a/k/a CIA black sites dotting
the world IF America's central intelligence agency hadn't been
infiltrated and thoroughly corrupted by commies.

America wouldn't be kidnapping ten of thousands of innocent Americans
and imprisoning them in GULAGS a/k/a cia black cites IF commies hadn't
infiltrated and coopted the US government.

America wouldn't be employing communist North Korea's Torture on
innocent americans kidnapped and being hid in GULAGS if the US
government hadn't been infliltrated and coopted by Commie Rat
bsatrads.

And, the CIA wouldn't have funded commie Russians creation of Google
IF, the CIA hadn't been infiltrated and corrupted by commie rat
bsatards.

All the commie rat bastards stalking me, who archive my
political speech are doing so in anticipation of the day when the
commie rat bsatards
cooption of the US government is completed, and, begin exacting
retribution against
all the patriotic americans who possess nothing but contempt for all
these commie rat bsatards who corrupted the USA.

Anyone who doesn't know what the future will hold if Congress doesn't
act immediately to put a halt to the crimes of Bush, his flying,
and, our federal government being corrupted by commie rat bastards,
can read all about it here.

http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.

North Korea Interrogation and Torture:


Interrogation
***************
***** The standard practice appears to be that those suspected of
'political crimes' (including minor actions which are interpreted as
showing insufficient respect) are detained and interrogated by the
State Security Agency. Some detainees describe being held at three
levels of the SSA system, namely, central government, province and
district or city levels.*****


Torture
**********
*****Interrogation routinely involves many forms of brutal and
horrific torture. Evidence obtained includes accounts of three
different types of water torture, severe beatings, sexual assault and
violation, as well as psychological and verbal abuse. Sleep
deprivation is a common tactic, which both victims and torturers have
commented is especially effective in interrogation. In some serious
cases this is induced through water torture where sleep is impossible
without drowning. Other cruel treatment includes suspending detainees
by their wrists from the ceiling or from bars, using blocks, guns,
holsters, metal poles and wooden pokers, as well as fists and boots,
to inflict terrible pain and injuries, and the insertion of objects
into the body, including the vagina.


Even outside the torture rooms, violence can be fierce. Those in the
cells who are deemed to be moving without permission have been forced
to put their hands through the bars of the door, where the guard
mercilessly beats or stamps on them until they are bleeding and the
skin is shredded. A prisoner detained for a minor offence described
the condition of one of his fellow inmates who had been placed in a
special punishment chamber. He described the man as looking
completely
black where he still had skin, but that much of his skin on his face
was missing, and all he could see were his eyes. The man was still
alive, though barely clinging to his life.


After the interrogation and torture in the SSA detention facilities a
decision is made as to which form of punishment will be imposed. No
case was heard in which a person accused of a political crime was
released from detention after this process of interrogation *****
-----
And, lots worse


http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.

Patriotic americans who don't want themselves, their sons and
daughters, their parents and grandparents, their friends and
colleagues being tortured by the commie rat bastards because they
possess nothing but contempt for all the commie rat bastards who
corrupted the US federal government can let congress know what they
think of Congress letting commie rat bastards loot America, steal
American children for commie human traffiking, and, make a complete
mockery of the US constitution and Bill of Rights by their relentless
stalking, spying upon, and, illegal wiretapping of Patriotic
Americans via Moveon website , here.

http://pol.moveon.org/noimmunity/


Thanks!
Post by HPVTS OA
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HPVTS OA
*I* care
m***@gmail.com
2007-12-02 06:40:18 UTC
Permalink
On Nov 29, 1:58 pm, Linda <***@hotmail.com> wrote:

A gigantic bunch of shit...


Linda Gore, go fucketh yourself and get on some haldol
indomitable2
2007-11-29 19:35:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by HPVTS OA
Post by Frank
Notice Linda's support for commie countries
Do *you* ever see any commies under your bed *stoopid* huh ?
All the commie rat bsatards criminally stalking, spying upon, and illegally
wiretapping patriotic americans do.

After all, commie rat bsatards PROJECT like everyone else.

In case you aren't aware of it, it was three commie Russians employed by
the US government (which communists, Russians and otherwise) have
thoroughly corrupted), who were among the first criminal rat bsatards whose
US government jobs the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Ring sought to protect,
by, the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Rings publishing articles in which
they falsely depicted their three communist comrades as "victims" to
manufacture a false pretext for their exacting retribution against the
patriotic americans who reported the three commie rat bastards for their
misappropriating technical resources americans furnished them with to
perform their US government jobs, NOT for libeling, harassing, and
stalking patriotic americans.

The commies rat bsatards who comprise the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Ring
didn't endeavor to protect the commies involved in the founding of the FMSF,
and, those holding public office in US border cities turning a blind eye to
commie human trafficing, etc, BY, their relentless stalking of Diana
Napolis, a patriotic american who quit her government job rather then
continue to be part of San Diego County Officialdom turning a blind eye to
San Diego County being transformed into a port for commies trafficing of
children, until, a few years AFTER the commies in the AUK and SPP Criminal
Stalking Ring succeeded in protecting the US government jobs of commie
Russians like Dmitry Pruss.

Wake up and smell the coffee!

Commies wrote the book on all this helter skelter type BS the AUK and SPP
Criminal Stalking Rings have been engaging in to protect the jobs of commie
criminal rat bastardes employed by the US government the commies have
corrupted, BY, contributing to the imprisonment, debilitation, and death
of Patriotic Americans.

The two commie rat bsatrads, (Viet Cong and Russian) who authored what's
known as the US Patriot Act, named it the Patriot Act to mock the patriotic
americans whom the commie bsatards who have corrupted the US Government
enacted the law to stalk and spy on, then, illegally wiretap.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_Dinh

The United States of America would NOT have all those Gulags a/k/a CIA
black, IF, America's central intelligence agency hadn't been infiltrated
and thoroughly corrupted by commie rat bastards.

The United States of America would NOT be kidnapping ten of thousands of
innocent Americans and imprisoning them in GULAGS a/k/a cia black cites IF
commie rat bastards hadn't infiltrated and coopted the US Federal
government.

America would not be utilizing communist North Korea's Torture Tactics on
the innocent Americans they kidnapped and are holding in commie run GULAGS
if the US government hadn't been infliltrated and corrupted by Commie Rat
bsatrads.

And, the commie run CIA wouldn't have funded a commie's establishment of
Google, IF, the commie run CIA hadn't been infiltrated and corrupted by
commie rat bsatards.

All the commie rat bastards stalking me, who are arhcing my
political speech, are doing so in anticipation of the day when the commie
rat bsatards
cooption of the US government is finished, and, the commie rat bastards
running the US Government begin implementing retribution and the final
solution against Patriotic americans who possses nothing but contempt for
the commie rat bastards who thoroughly corrupted the US government.


Anyone who doesn't know what the future will hold if Congress doesn't act
immediately to put a halt to the crimes of Bush, his flying, and, our
federal government being corrupted by commie rat bastards, can read all
about it here.

http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.

North Korea Interrogation and Torture:


Interrogation
***************
***** The standard practice appears to be that those suspected of
'political crimes' (including minor actions which are interpreted as
showing insufficient respect) are detained and interrogated by the
State Security Agency. Some detainees describe being held at three
levels of the SSA system, namely, central government, province and
district or city levels.*****


Torture
**********
*****Interrogation routinely involves many forms of brutal and
horrific torture. Evidence obtained includes accounts of three
different types of water torture, severe beatings, sexual assault and
violation, as well as psychological and verbal abuse. Sleep
deprivation is a common tactic, which both victims and torturers have
commented is especially effective in interrogation. In some serious
cases this is induced through water torture where sleep is impossible
without drowning. Other cruel treatment includes suspending detainees
by their wrists from the ceiling or from bars, using blocks, guns,
holsters, metal poles and wooden pokers, as well as fists and boots,
to inflict terrible pain and injuries, and the insertion of objects
into the body, including the vagina.


Even outside the torture rooms, violence can be fierce. Those in the
cells who are deemed to be moving without permission have been forced
to put their hands through the bars of the door, where the guard
mercilessly beats or stamps on them until they are bleeding and the
skin is shredded. A prisoner detained for a minor offence described
the condition of one of his fellow inmates who had been placed in a
special punishment chamber. He described the man as looking
completely
black where he still had skin, but that much of his skin on his face
was missing, and all he could see were his eyes. The man was still
alive, though barely clinging to his life.


After the interrogation and torture in the SSA detention facilities a
decision is made as to which form of punishment will be imposed. No
case was heard in which a person accused of a political crime was
released from detention after this process of interrogation *****
-----
And, lots worse

http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.

Patriotic americans who don't want themselves, their sons and daughters,
their parents and grandparents, their friends and colleagues being tortured
to death by commie rat bastards who corrupted the US government, can let
congress know they want congress to hold Bush, his flying monkies, and his
army of US government employed commie rat bastards accountable for their
heinous crimes VIA the Moveon website, here.

http://pol.moveon.org/noimmunity/


Thanks!
HPVTS OA
2007-11-29 20:30:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by indomitable2
Post by HPVTS OA
Post by Frank
Notice Linda's support for commie countries
Do *you* ever see any commies under your bed *stoopid* huh ?
All the commie rat bsatards criminally stalking, spying upon, and illegally
wiretapping patriotic americans do.
After all, commie rat bsatards PROJECT like everyone else.
In case you aren't aware of it, it was three commie Russians employed by
the US government (which communists, Russians and otherwise) have
thoroughly corrupted), who were among the first criminal rat bsatards whose
US government jobs the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Ring sought to protect,
by, the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Rings publishing articles in which
they falsely depicted their three communist comrades as "victims" to
manufacture a false pretext for their exacting retribution against the
patriotic americans who reported the three commie rat bastards for their
misappropriating technical resources americans furnished them with to
perform their US government jobs, NOT for libeling, harassing, and
stalking patriotic americans.
The commies rat bsatards who comprise the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Ring
didn't endeavor to protect the commies involved in the founding of the FMSF,
and, those holding public office in US border cities turning a blind eye to
commie human trafficing, etc, BY, their relentless stalking of Diana
Napolis, a patriotic american who quit her government job rather then
continue to be part of San Diego County Officialdom turning a blind eye to
San Diego County being transformed into a port for commies trafficing of
children, until, a few years AFTER the commies in the AUK and SPP Criminal
Stalking Ring succeeded in protecting the US government jobs of commie
Russians like Dmitry Pruss.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
Commies wrote the book on all this helter skelter type BS the AUK and SPP
Criminal Stalking Rings have been engaging in to protect the jobs of commie
criminal rat bastardes employed by the US government the commies have
corrupted, BY, contributing to the imprisonment, debilitation, and death
of Patriotic Americans.
The two commie rat bsatrads, (Viet Cong and Russian) who authored what's
known as the US Patriot Act, named it the Patriot Act to mock the patriotic
americans whom the commie bsatards who have corrupted the US Government
enacted the law to stalk and spy on, then, illegally wiretap.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_Dinh
The United States of America would NOT have all those Gulags a/k/a CIA
black, IF, America's central intelligence agency hadn't been infiltrated
and thoroughly corrupted by commie rat bastards.
The United States of America would NOT be kidnapping ten of thousands of
innocent Americans and imprisoning them in GULAGS a/k/a cia black cites IF
commie rat bastards hadn't infiltrated and coopted the US Federal
government.
America would not be utilizing communist North Korea's Torture Tactics on
the innocent Americans they kidnapped and are holding in commie run GULAGS
if the US government hadn't been infliltrated and corrupted by Commie Rat
bsatrads.
And, the commie run CIA wouldn't have funded a commie's establishment of
Google, IF, the commie run CIA hadn't been infiltrated and corrupted by
commie rat bsatards.
All the commie rat bastards stalking me, who are arhcing my
political speech, are doing so in anticipation of the day when the commie
rat bsatards
cooption of the US government is finished, and, the commie rat bastards
running the US Government begin implementing retribution and the final
solution against Patriotic americans who possses nothing but contempt for
the commie rat bastards who thoroughly corrupted the US government.
Anyone who doesn't know what the future will hold if Congress doesn't act
immediately to put a halt to the crimes of Bush, his flying, and, our
federal government being corrupted by commie rat bastards, can read all
about it here.
http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.
Interrogation
***************
***** The standard practice appears to be that those suspected of
'political crimes' (including minor actions which are interpreted as
showing insufficient respect) are detained and interrogated by the
State Security Agency. Some detainees describe being held at three
levels of the SSA system, namely, central government, province and
district or city levels.*****
Torture
**********
*****Interrogation routinely involves many forms of brutal and
horrific torture. Evidence obtained includes accounts of three
different types of water torture, severe beatings, sexual assault and
violation, as well as psychological and verbal abuse. Sleep
deprivation is a common tactic, which both victims and torturers have
commented is especially effective in interrogation. In some serious
cases this is induced through water torture where sleep is impossible
without drowning. Other cruel treatment includes suspending detainees
by their wrists from the ceiling or from bars, using blocks, guns,
holsters, metal poles and wooden pokers, as well as fists and boots,
to inflict terrible pain and injuries, and the insertion of objects
into the body, including the vagina.
Even outside the torture rooms, violence can be fierce. Those in the
cells who are deemed to be moving without permission have been forced
to put their hands through the bars of the door, where the guard
mercilessly beats or stamps on them until they are bleeding and the
skin is shredded. A prisoner detained for a minor offence described
the condition of one of his fellow inmates who had been placed in a
special punishment chamber. He described the man as looking
completely
black where he still had skin, but that much of his skin on his face
was missing, and all he could see were his eyes. The man was still
alive, though barely clinging to his life.
After the interrogation and torture in the SSA detention facilities a
decision is made as to which form of punishment will be imposed. No
case was heard in which a person accused of a political crime was
released from detention after this process of interrogation *****
-----
And, lots worse
http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.
Patriotic americans who don't want themselves, their sons and daughters,
their parents and grandparents, their friends and colleagues being tortured
to death by commie rat bastards who corrupted the US government, can let
congress know they want congress to hold Bush, his flying monkies, and his
army of US government employed commie rat bastards accountable for their
heinous crimes VIA the Moveon website, here.
http://pol.moveon.org/noimmunity/
Thanks!
Clearly Frankie, his sister and mum are rat *commie bastards



--

HPVTS OA
*I* care
indomitable2
2007-11-30 23:57:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by HPVTS OA
Post by indomitable2
Post by HPVTS OA
Post by Frank
Notice Linda's support for commie countries
Do *you* ever see any commies under your bed *stoopid* huh ?
All the commie rat bsatards criminally stalking, spying upon, and illegally
wiretapping patriotic americans do.
After all, commie rat bsatards PROJECT like everyone else.
In case you aren't aware of it, it was three commie Russians employed by
the US government (which communists, Russians and otherwise) have
thoroughly corrupted), who were among the first criminal rat bsatards whose
US government jobs the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Ring sought to protect,
by, the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Rings publishing articles in which
they falsely depicted their three communist comrades as "victims" to
manufacture a false pretext for their exacting retribution against the
patriotic americans who reported the three commie rat bastards for their
misappropriating technical resources americans furnished them with to
perform their US government jobs, NOT for libeling, harassing, and
stalking patriotic americans.
The commies rat bsatards who comprise the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Ring
didn't endeavor to protect the commies involved in the founding of the FMSF,
and, those holding public office in US border cities turning a blind eye to
commie human trafficing, etc, BY, their relentless stalking of Diana
Napolis, a patriotic american who quit her government job rather then
continue to be part of San Diego County Officialdom turning a blind eye to
San Diego County being transformed into a port for commies trafficing of
children, until, a few years AFTER the commies in the AUK and SPP Criminal
Stalking Ring succeeded in protecting the US government jobs of commie
Russians like Dmitry Pruss.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
Commies wrote the book on all this helter skelter type BS the AUK and SPP
Criminal Stalking Rings have been engaging in to protect the jobs of commie
criminal rat bastardes employed by the US government the commies have
corrupted, BY, contributing to the imprisonment, debilitation, and death
of Patriotic Americans.
The two commie rat bsatrads, (Viet Cong and Russian) who authored what's
known as the US Patriot Act, named it the Patriot Act to mock the patriotic
americans whom the commie bsatards who have corrupted the US Government
enacted the law to stalk and spy on, then, illegally wiretap.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_Dinh
The United States of America would NOT have all those Gulags a/k/a CIA
black, IF, America's central intelligence agency hadn't been infiltrated
and thoroughly corrupted by commie rat bastards.
The United States of America would NOT be kidnapping ten of thousands of
innocent Americans and imprisoning them in GULAGS a/k/a cia black cites IF
commie rat bastards hadn't infiltrated and coopted the US Federal
government.
America would not be utilizing communist North Korea's Torture Tactics on
the innocent Americans they kidnapped and are holding in commie run GULAGS
if the US government hadn't been infliltrated and corrupted by Commie Rat
bsatrads.
And, the commie run CIA wouldn't have funded a commie's establishment of
Google, IF, the commie run CIA hadn't been infiltrated and corrupted by
commie rat bsatards.
All the commie rat bastards stalking me, who are arhcing my
political speech, are doing so in anticipation of the day when the commie
rat bsatards
cooption of the US government is finished, and, the commie rat bastards
running the US Government begin implementing retribution and the final
solution against Patriotic americans who possses nothing but contempt for
the commie rat bastards who thoroughly corrupted the US government.
Anyone who doesn't know what the future will hold if Congress doesn't act
immediately to put a halt to the crimes of Bush, his flying, and, our
federal government being corrupted by commie rat bastards, can read all
about it here.
http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.
Interrogation
***************
***** The standard practice appears to be that those suspected of
'political crimes' (including minor actions which are interpreted as
showing insufficient respect) are detained and interrogated by the
State Security Agency. Some detainees describe being held at three
levels of the SSA system, namely, central government, province and
district or city levels.*****
Torture
**********
*****Interrogation routinely involves many forms of brutal and
horrific torture. Evidence obtained includes accounts of three
different types of water torture, severe beatings, sexual assault and
violation, as well as psychological and verbal abuse. Sleep
deprivation is a common tactic, which both victims and torturers have
commented is especially effective in interrogation. In some serious
cases this is induced through water torture where sleep is impossible
without drowning. Other cruel treatment includes suspending detainees
by their wrists from the ceiling or from bars, using blocks, guns,
holsters, metal poles and wooden pokers, as well as fists and boots,
to inflict terrible pain and injuries, and the insertion of objects
into the body, including the vagina.
Even outside the torture rooms, violence can be fierce. Those in the
cells who are deemed to be moving without permission have been forced
to put their hands through the bars of the door, where the guard
mercilessly beats or stamps on them until they are bleeding and the
skin is shredded. A prisoner detained for a minor offence described
the condition of one of his fellow inmates who had been placed in a
special punishment chamber. He described the man as looking
completely
black where he still had skin, but that much of his skin on his face
was missing, and all he could see were his eyes. The man was still
alive, though barely clinging to his life.
After the interrogation and torture in the SSA detention facilities a
decision is made as to which form of punishment will be imposed. No
case was heard in which a person accused of a political crime was
released from detention after this process of interrogation *****
-----
And, lots worse
http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.
Patriotic americans who don't want themselves, their sons and daughters,
their parents and grandparents, their friends and colleagues being tortured
to death by commie rat bastards who corrupted the US government, can let
congress know they want congress to hold Bush, his flying monkies, and his
army of US government employed commie rat bastards accountable for their
heinous crimes VIA the Moveon website, here.
http://pol.moveon.org/noimmunity/
Thanks!
Clearly Frankie, his sister and mum are rat *commie bastards
The criminal whom you call "Frankie" authors hate speech which makes that
criminal a dead ringer
for an alt.support.tourette poster named Bob Geller / Gish / Kish.

In May 2007, Meri S Kennedy published an article to Alt.support.tourette
wherein she alleged the following:

"...I am Bob's little sister who was molested and raped by him."

See:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/231d4f92a8c44c67?dmode=source


In May 2007, Meri published other articles to alt.support.tourette
informing readers she had authored a book titled "My Enemy, Myself" wherein
she shared the story of her surviving a childhood marred by her having been
molested and raped by her manipulative and sadistic older brother, Bob
Geller, beginning, when she was a pre-schooler.

See:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/c375d32663be379d?dmode=source

Also see Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/My-Enemy-Myself-Meri-Kennedy/dp/1424115949

Meri's publication of her book inspired other women, such as Carole L.,
to come forward with their tale of woe vis a vis Bob Geller / Gish / Kish.

" I am 1 year older than Meri and used to live a few houses down from
the Gellers. Bobby raped me when i was 5 years old. He made a tear
in my vagina and I was treated by a doctor at the then Cranston
General, the dr was a friend of Bobby's mother Jean Geller and when my
Mom had the police come in, the dr said she told him I hurt myself
while riding double on my brother's bike. The police did nothing."

See:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/cf7cd64fd39428bb?dmode=source


Bob Geller / Gish / Kish was also a member of the gang of cyberstalkers
who endeavored to make alt.support.tourette into one long un-interrepted
info-mercial for recruiting unwitting parents to bring their children to the
Yale Child Study Center.

According to Bob Geller, from 1981-2005, when Bob Geller was 28-52 yo,
the Yale *Child* Study Center employed Bob Geller to *assist* Yale physicans
in the research/experiments being performed on infants, toddlers and
children at the Yale Child Study Center.

".....the operative word is the same word I have been preaching for 20 yrs
to deaf ears, save the Yale Child Study Center where I worked part time and
saw thousands of TS children ....."

See
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/12c34665f3ce1fd7?dmode=source

According to Bob Geller, the Yale Child Study Center had 28-52 year old Bob
Geller bunking with the infants, toddlers, and children residing in the
pediatric ward of Yale *Child* Study Center.

See
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/3a944cba1ca59b4f?dmode=source

Deliberate Creation of Multiple Personality by Psychiatrists
By Colin A. Ross MD
http://www.wanttoknow.info/bluebird10pg

"......unwitting citizens were experimented on by ..l doctors at Yale,
Harvard, McGill, Stanford, UCLA, and other major universities. These human
guinea pigs were never told that they were subjects in military and CIA mind
control experiments, and they never gave informed consent. They received no
systematic follow-up to document the harm done to them. The welfare of the
"human subjects" was not a relevant variable in the academic equation." The
... doctors saw their patients as biological machines, a view which made
them sub-human, and therefore easier to abuse in mind control experiments.
P. 91, 126"

11/09/2007

Association between atrocities Bush, Cheney, and, their band of Yale
educated flying monkeys, and, The Milgram Torture Experiment conducted on
students at Yale under investigation.


November 9, 2007 at 14:29:40

http://www.opednews.com

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE MILGRAM TORTURE EXPERIMENT MIGHT BE LINKED TO
RAISING OF DICK CHENEY & GEORGE W. BUSH
By Kevin Stoda

I don't know to what extent the subject of this article on Milgram, Bush and
Cheney has been raised before by historians and neurolinguistic programmers
for further investigation.

However, with the continued irate public response to another U.S. Attorney
General who promotes "water boarding" and other torture techniques, I have
decided to start looking at the biographies of George W. Bush and Dick
Cheney closely and see if there is any apparent reason to not link the
results of the seminal Stanley Milgram experiments (involving the study of
how willingly Americans and others can be trained to become executioners on
behalf of authority figures, etc.) and our American leaders today.

Within minutes of starting this research, I discovered that Milgram's, the
Yale psychologist's, experiments were carried out starting in 1961 (with the
first paper published in 1963, the year Bush entered Yale University).

At the time the experiments did not break any APA ethics. However, in the
wake of the abuse apparent in such experiments, heavier restrictions from
the APA have since been made-leading to little duplication of such
experiments. That is they are illegal and/or for APA publication and other
research purposes in the USA.

I also quickly discovered after doing just a little more research that Vice
President Dick Cheney was certainly attending Yale at the time of these
experiments.

Could it be that Cheney either participated in these experiments or knew of
the results of these experiments from first-hand participants (or actors or
assistants involved in the experiment) in the early 1960s? When did he
first know and what did he know? What did he think of such an experiment?

These Milgram obedience-experiments, begun in July 1961, were intended to
emulate what occurred under the Germans under Nazism and Fascism in the
1930s and 1940s Europe. The experiment, involving 40 subjects at Yale ,
measured the willingness of unsuspecting-participants to (1) obey
authorities and (2) to commit acts of torture on others-unto the point of
death of the subjects.

PURPOSE OF MILGRAM'S RESEARCH

Most introductions-to-psychology students are aware of Milgram's study. He
began the experiment in 1961 just as the Adolf Eichmann trial in Israel was
wrapping up.

The procedure of the experiment is explained as follows: "A person comes to
the laboratory and, in the context of a learning experiment, is told to give
increasingly severe shocks to another person (who is actually an actor).
The purpose of the experiment is to see how far a subject will proceed
before refusing to comply with the experimenter's instructions. Twenty-six
of 40 subjects administered the highest shocks on the generator."

Milgram notes, " 'Behavioral study of obedience' was the first published
account of a series of studies I had taken at Yale University on the
response of individuals to destructive authority."

DESTRUCTIVE AUTHORITY?

Isn't obeying an executive branch indirect or direct order to conduct
water-boarding a good example of destructive authority? "Water boarding" is
even against the law in the USA and in almost all lands around the world.

What is not mentioned in many reviews of Milgram's seminal research is that
Yale University is the home to a great number of CIA agents and public
servants in the USA. As a matter of fact an almost identical statue of
Nathan Hale stands at both Yale University and in front of the CIA federal
building.

As is also well-known, Yale University is also home to the semi-infamous
Skull and Bones Society (fraternity) to which President George W. Bush once
belonged in the mid-1960s.

As in most traditional eastern fraternities, hazing-verging on torture-was
not unknown throughout the 1960s while Bush was at Yale. What did Bush
undergo in terms of acquiring obedience within a culture of authority
worship back in the 1960s?

QUESTIONS

(1) What is the relationship of Bush and Cheney to Milgram and similar
obedience research?

(2) How has this experiment and others like it affected modern American
history?

(3) How are understandings from such "educational research" affecting
American education and how the military, FBI, and other investigative
agencies carry out their work? The new Attorney General seems to believe in
such obedience.

(4) Has anyone sued in such cases successfully?

(5) Who actually participated as the original 40 "victim-subjects" in the
experiments?

(6) Were similar experiments prevalent at other universities where many
U.S. leaders come from?

I would be happy to promote discussion of these questions and to share
findings of other related research by psychologists, social psychologists,
trauma experts, and historians.

NOTES
Milgram, Stanley, "Behavioral Study of Obedience",
http://www.garfield.library.upenn.edu/classics1981/A1981LC33300001.pdf

Milgram, Stanley, (1974) OBEDIENCE TO AUTHORITY ,
http://66.102.1.104/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=cache:lqlvyBfYt84J:www.rci.rutgers.edu/~rudman/lecture13f05.pdf+

Milgram Experiment,
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/09/virtual-torture-experiment-revisits-classic-psych-obedience-test/

Ransome-Wiley, James, "Virtual Torture Experiment Revisits Classic Psych
Obedience Test",
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/09/virtual-torture-experiment-revisits-classic-psych-obedience-test/

Stoda, Kevin, "Appropriating Fiction for Reality: George W. Bush LEADERSHIP
AND PROMOTION OF MIND AND BEHAVIORAL CONTROL",
http://the-teacher.blogspot.com/2007/01/appropriating-fiction-for-reality.html


KEVIN STODA has been blessed to have either traveled in or worked in nearly
100 countries on five continents over the past two and a half decades. He
sees himself as a peace educator and have been a promoter of good economic
and social development--making him an enemy of my homelands humongous
spending and its focus on using weapons to try and solve global issues.

"I am from Kansas so I also use the pseudonym 'Kansas' when I write and
publish. I keep two blogs--one with blogger and one with GNN. My writings
range from reviews to editorials or to travel observations. I also make
recommendations related to policy--having both a strong background in
teaching foreign languages and degrees in teaching in history and the social
sciences. As a midwesterner, I also write on religion and living out ones
faith whether it be as a Christian, Muslim or Buddhist perspective."

"On my own home page, I also provide information for language learners and
travelers" http://www.geocities.com/eslkevin/ ,
http://the-teacher.blogspot.com/ & http://alone.gnn.tv/

http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/opedne_alone_071109_is_it_possible_that_.htm

------

"The more people who say you are wrong, the more objective, and hence right,
you are."
-- Jon Swift, Journalism 101.

-------
Tag(s): Koochers K00KS, Koochers KILLERS, Bush, Cheney, Negroponte,
Co-Conspirators, Milgram, Seligman, Koocher, Psychopathy, Sociopathy,
Criminal Insanity, Crimes, Murder, War Crimes, Nuremberg, The Hague,
Kooks, Yale Child Study Center, Bob Geller, Joanne Cohen, Packer, Frank,
Blessedby2, TSNW, Alfred Enisz, Mark Morin, Gary Burnore, Steve Ruiz,
Micheal Acquino, Daniel L. Rogers, Eric S. Riddick, Kimberly K. Barnard,
Deborah Bentley, Ann Rein, Catherine McEvoy, Mark S. Probert, Joseph M.
Parsons, Child molestation, Rape,
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Notice Linda's support for commie countries
Do *you* ever see any commies under your bed *stoopid* huh ?
All the commie rat bsatards criminally stalking, spying upon, and illegally
wiretapping patriotic americans do.
After all, commie rat bsatards PROJECT like everyone else.
In case you aren't aware of it, it was three commie Russians employed by
the US government (which communists, Russians and otherwise) have
thoroughly corrupted), who were among the first criminal rat bsatards whose
US government jobs the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Ring sought to protect,
by, the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Rings publishing articles in which
they falsely depicted their three communist comrades as "victims" to
manufacture a false pretext for their exacting retribution against the
patriotic americans who reported the three commie rat bastards for their
misappropriating technical resources americans furnished them with to
perform their US government jobs, NOT for libeling, harassing, and
stalking patriotic americans.
The commies rat bsatards who comprise the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Ring
didn't endeavor to protect the commies involved in the founding of the FMSF,
and, those holding public office in US border cities turning a blind eye to
commie human trafficing, etc, BY, their relentless stalking of Diana
Napolis, a patriotic american who quit her government job rather then
continue to be part of San Diego County Officialdom turning a blind eye to
San Diego County being transformed into a port for commies trafficing of
children, until, a few years AFTER the commies in the AUK and SPP Criminal
Stalking Ring succeeded in protecting the US government jobs of commie
Russians like Dmitry Pruss.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
Commies wrote the book on all this helter skelter type BS the AUK and SPP
Criminal Stalking Rings have been engaging in to protect the jobs of commie
criminal rat bastardes employed by the US government the commies have
corrupted, BY, contributing to the imprisonment, debilitation, and death
of Patriotic Americans.
The two commie rat bsatrads, (Viet Cong and Russian) who authored what's
known as the US Patriot Act, named it the Patriot Act to mock the patriotic
americans whom the commie bsatards who have corrupted the US Government
enacted the law to stalk and spy on, then, illegally wiretap.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_Dinh
The United States of America would NOT have all those Gulags a/k/a CIA
black, IF, America's central intelligence agency hadn't been infiltrated
and thoroughly corrupted by commie rat bastards.
The United States of America would NOT be kidnapping ten of thousands of
innocent Americans and imprisoning them in GULAGS a/k/a cia black cites IF
commie rat bastards hadn't infiltrated and coopted the US Federal
government.
America would not be utilizing communist North Korea's Torture Tactics on
the innocent Americans they kidnapped and are holding in commie run GULAGS
if the US government hadn't been infliltrated and corrupted by Commie Rat
bsatrads.
And, the commie run CIA wouldn't have funded a commie's establishment of
Google, IF, the commie run CIA hadn't been infiltrated and corrupted by
commie rat bsatards.
All the commie rat bastards stalking me, who are arhcing my
political speech, are doing so in anticipation of the day when the commie
rat bsatards
cooption of the US government is finished, and, the commie rat bastards
running the US Government begin implementing retribution and the final
solution against Patriotic americans who possses nothing but contempt for
the commie rat bastards who thoroughly corrupted the US government.
Anyone who doesn't know what the future will hold if Congress doesn't act
immediately to put a halt to the crimes of Bush, his flying, and, our
federal government being corrupted by commie rat bastards, can read all
about it here.
http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.
Interrogation
***************
***** The standard practice appears to be that those suspected of
'political crimes' (including minor actions which are interpreted as
showing insufficient respect) are detained and interrogated by the
State Security Agency. Some detainees describe being held at three
levels of the SSA system, namely, central government, province and
district or city levels.*****
Torture
**********
*****Interrogation routinely involves many forms of brutal and
horrific torture. Evidence obtained includes accounts of three
different types of water torture, severe beatings, sexual assault and
violation, as well as psychological and verbal abuse. Sleep
deprivation is a common tactic, which both victims and torturers have
commented is especially effective in interrogation. In some serious
cases this is induced through water torture where sleep is impossible
without drowning. Other cruel treatment includes suspending detainees
by their wrists from the ceiling or from bars, using blocks, guns,
holsters, metal poles and wooden pokers, as well as fists and boots,
to inflict terrible pain and injuries, and the insertion of objects
into the body, including the vagina.
Even outside the torture rooms, violence can be fierce. Those in the
cells who are deemed to be moving without permission have been forced
to put their hands through the bars of the door, where the guard
mercilessly beats or stamps on them until they are bleeding and the
skin is shredded. A prisoner detained for a minor offence described
the condition of one of his fellow inmates who had been placed in a
special punishment chamber. He described the man as looking
completely
black where he still had skin, but that much of his skin on his face
was missing, and all he could see were his eyes. The man was still
alive, though barely clinging to his life.
After the interrogation and torture in the SSA detention facilities a
decision is made as to which form of punishment will be imposed. No
case was heard in which a person accused of a political crime was
released from detention after this process of interrogation *****
-----
And, lots worse
http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.
Patriotic americans who don't want themselves, their sons and daughters,
their parents and grandparents, their friends and colleagues being tortured
to death by commie rat bastards who corrupted the US government, can let
congress know they want congress to hold Bush, his flying monkies, and his
army of US government employed commie rat bastards accountable for their
heinous crimes VIA the Moveon website, here.
http://pol.moveon.org/noimmunity/
Thanks!
Clearly Frankie, his sister and mum are rat *commie bastards
The criminal whom you call "Frankie" authors hate speech which makes that
criminal a dead ringer
for an alt.support.tourette poster named Bob Geller / Gish / Kish.
In May 2007, Meri S Kennedy published an article to Alt.support.tourette
"...I am Bob's little sister who was molested and raped by him."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/231d4f92a8c44c67?dmode=source
In May 2007, Meri published other articles to alt.support.tourette
informing readers she had authored a book titled "My Enemy, Myself" wherein
she shared the story of her surviving a childhood marred by her having been
molested and raped by her manipulative and sadistic older brother, Bob
Geller, beginning, when she was a pre-schooler.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/c375d32663be379d?dmode=source
http://www.amazon.com/My-Enemy-Myself-Meri-Kennedy/dp/1424115949
Meri's publication of her book inspired other women, such as Carole L.,
to come forward with their tale of woe vis a vis Bob Geller / Gish / Kish.
" I am 1 year older than Meri and used to live a few houses down from
the Gellers. Bobby raped me when i was 5 years old. He made a tear
in my vagina and I was treated by a doctor at the then Cranston
General, the dr was a friend of Bobby's mother Jean Geller and when my
Mom had the police come in, the dr said she told him I hurt myself
while riding double on my brother's bike. The police did nothing."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/cf7cd64fd39428bb?dmode=source
Bob Geller / Gish / Kish was also a member of the gang of cyberstalkers
who endeavored to make alt.support.tourette into one long un-interrepted
info-mercial for recruiting unwitting parents to bring their children to the
Yale Child Study Center.
According to Bob Geller, from 1981-2005, when Bob Geller was 28-52 yo,
the Yale *Child* Study Center employed Bob Geller to *assist* Yale physicans
in the research/experiments being performed on infants, toddlers and
children at the Yale Child Study Center.
".....the operative word is the same word I have been preaching for 20 yrs
to deaf ears, save the Yale Child Study Center where I worked part time and
saw thousands of TS children ....."
See
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/12c34665f3ce1fd7?dmode=source
According to Bob Geller, the Yale Child Study Center had 28-52 year old Bob
Geller bunking with the infants, toddlers, and children residing in the
pediatric ward of Yale *Child* Study Center.
See
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/3a944cba1ca59b4f?dmode=source
Deliberate Creation of Multiple Personality by Psychiatrists
By Colin A. Ross MD
http://www.wanttoknow.info/bluebird10pg
"......unwitting citizens were experimented on by ..l doctors at Yale,
Harvard, McGill, Stanford, UCLA, and other major universities. These human
guinea pigs were never told that they were subjects in military and CIA mind
control experiments, and they never gave informed consent. They received no
systematic follow-up to document the harm done to them. The welfare of the
"human subjects" was not a relevant variable in the academic equation." The
... doctors saw their patients as biological machines, a view which made
them sub-human, and therefore easier to abuse in mind control experiments.
P. 91, 126"
11/09/2007
Association between atrocities Bush, Cheney, and, their band of Yale
educated flying monkeys, and, The Milgram Torture Experiment conducted on
students at Yale under investigation.
November 9, 2007 at 14:29:40
http://www.opednews.com
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE MILGRAM TORTURE EXPERIMENT MIGHT BE LINKED TO
RAISING OF DICK CHENEY & GEORGE W. BUSH
By Kevin Stoda
I don't know to what extent the subject of this article on Milgram, Bush and
Cheney has been raised before by historians and neurolinguistic programmers
for further investigation.
However, with the continued irate public response to another U.S. Attorney
General who promotes "water boarding" and other torture techniques, I have
decided to start looking at the biographies of George W. Bush and Dick
Cheney closely and see if there is any apparent reason to not link the
results of the seminal Stanley Milgram experiments (involving the study of
how willingly Americans and others can be trained to become executioners on
behalf of authority figures, etc.) and our American leaders today.
Within minutes of starting this research, I discovered that Milgram's, the
Yale psychologist's, experiments were carried out starting in 1961 (with the
first paper published in 1963, the year Bush entered Yale University).
At the time the experiments did not break any APA ethics. However, in the
wake of the abuse apparent in such experiments, heavier restrictions from
the APA have since been made-leading to little duplication of such
experiments. That is they are illegal and/or for APA publication and other
research purposes in the USA.
I also quickly discovered after doing just a little more research that Vice
President Dick Cheney was certainly attending Yale at the time of these
experiments.
Could it be that Cheney either participated in these experiments or knew of
the results of these experiments from first-hand participants (or actors or
assistants involved in the experiment) in the early 1960s? When did he
first know and what did he know? What did he think of such an experiment?
These Milgram obedience-experiments, begun in July 1961, were intended to
emulate what occurred under the Germans under Nazism and Fascism in the
1930s and 1940s Europe. The experiment, involving 40 subjects at Yale ,
measured the willingness of unsuspecting-participants to (1) obey
authorities and (2) to commit acts of torture on others-unto the point of
death of the subjects.
PURPOSE OF MILGRAM'S RESEARCH
Most introductions-to-psychology students are aware of Milgram's study. He
began the experiment in 1961 just as the Adolf Eichmann trial in Israel was
wrapping up.
The procedure of the experiment is explained as follows: "A person comes to
the laboratory and, in the context of a learning experiment, is told to give
increasingly severe shocks to another person (who is actually an actor).
The purpose of the experiment is to see how far a subject will proceed
before refusing to comply with the experimenter's instructions. Twenty-six
of 40 subjects administered the highest shocks on the generator."
Milgram notes, " 'Behavioral study of obedience' was the first published
account of a series of studies I had taken at Yale University on the
response of individuals to destructive authority."
DESTRUCTIVE AUTHORITY?
Isn't obeying an executive branch indirect or direct order to conduct
water-boarding a good example of destructive authority? "Water boarding" is
even against the law in the USA and in almost all lands around the world.
What is not mentioned in many reviews of Milgram's seminal research is that
Yale University is the home to a great number of CIA agents and public
servants in the USA. As a matter of fact an almost identical statue of
Nathan Hale stands at both Yale University and in front of the CIA federal
building.
As is also well-known, Yale University is also home to the semi-infamous
Skull and Bones Society (fraternity) to which President George W. Bush once
belonged in the mid-1960s.
As in most traditional eastern fraternities, hazing-verging on torture-was
not unknown throughout the 1960s while Bush was at Yale. What did Bush
undergo in terms of acquiring obedience within a culture of authority
worship back in the 1960s?
QUESTIONS
(1) What is the relationship of Bush and Cheney to Milgram and similar
obedience research?
(2) How has this experiment and others like it affected modern American
history?
(3) How are understandings from such "educational research" affecting
American education and how the military, FBI, and other investigative
agencies carry out their work? The new Attorney General seems to believe in
such obedience.
(4) Has anyone sued in such cases successfully?
(5) Who actually participated as the original 40 "victim-subjects" in the
experiments?
(6) Were similar experiments prevalent at other universities where many
U.S. leaders come from?
I would be happy to promote discussion of these questions and to share
findings of other related research by psychologists, social psychologists,
trauma experts, and historians.
NOTES
Milgram, Stanley, "Behavioral Study of Obedience",
http://www.garfield.library.upenn.edu/classics1981/A1981LC33300001.pdf
Milgram, Stanley, (1974) OBEDIENCE TO AUTHORITY ,
http://66.102.1.104/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=cache:lqlvyBfYt84J:www.rci.rutgers.edu/~rudman/lecture13f05.pdf+
Milgram Experiment,
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/09/virtual-torture-experiment-revisits-classic-psych-obedience-test/
Ransome-Wiley, James, "Virtual Torture Experiment Revisits Classic Psych
Obedience Test",
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/09/virtual-torture-experiment-revisits-classic-psych-obedience-test/
Stoda, Kevin, "Appropriating Fiction for Reality: George W. Bush LEADERSHIP
AND PROMOTION OF MIND AND BEHAVIORAL CONTROL",
http://the-teacher.blogspot.com/2007/01/appropriating-fiction-for-reality.html
KEVIN STODA has been blessed to have either traveled in or worked in nearly
100 countries on five continents over the past two and a half decades. He
sees himself as a peace educator and have been a promoter of good economic
and social development--making him an enemy of my homelands humongous
spending and its focus on using weapons to try and solve global issues.
"I am from Kansas so I also use the pseudonym 'Kansas' when I write and
publish. I keep two blogs--one with blogger and one with GNN. My writings
range from reviews to editorials or to travel observations. I also make
recommendations related to policy--having both a strong background in
teaching foreign languages and degrees in teaching in history and the social
sciences. As a midwesterner, I also write on religion and living out ones
faith whether it be as a Christian, Muslim or Buddhist perspective."
"On my own home page, I also provide information for language learners and
travelers" http://www.geocities.com/eslkevin/ ,
http://the-teacher.blogspot.com/ & http://alone.gnn.tv/
http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/opedne_alone_071109_is_it_possible_that_.htm
------
"The more people who say you are wrong, the more objective, and hence right,
you are."
-- Jon Swift, Journalism 101.
-------
Tag(s): Koochers K00KS, Koochers KILLERS, Bush, Cheney, Negroponte,
Co-Conspirators, Milgram, Seligman, Koocher, Psychopathy, Sociopathy,
Criminal Insanity, Crimes, Murder, War Crimes, Nuremberg, The Hague,
Kooks, Yale Child Study Center, Bob Geller, Joanne Cohen, Packer, Frank,
Blessedby2, TSNW, Alfred Enisz, Mark Morin, Gary Burnore, Steve Ruiz,
Micheal Acquino, Daniel L. Rogers, Eric S. Riddick, Kimberly K. Barnard,
Deborah Bentley, Ann Rein, Catherine McEvoy, Mark S. Probert, Joseph M.
Parsons, Child molestation, Rape,
Clearly Frankie is not only a commie but also a glowing avatar
for a pavement pizza.. three words describe this human stool



STINK STANK STUNK.. phew !




BTW.. Frankie's sock2sock posts also STINK STANK STUNK



--

HPVTS OA
*I* care
indomitable2
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Post by indomitable2
Post by HPVTS OA
Post by Frank
Notice Linda's support for commie countries
Do *you* ever see any commies under your bed *stoopid* huh ?
All the commie rat bsatards criminally stalking, spying upon, and illegally
wiretapping patriotic americans do.
After all, commie rat bsatards PROJECT like everyone else.
In case you aren't aware of it, it was three commie Russians employed by
the US government (which communists, Russians and otherwise) have
thoroughly corrupted), who were among the first criminal rat bsatards whose
US government jobs the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Ring sought to protect,
by, the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Rings publishing articles in which
they falsely depicted their three communist comrades as "victims" to
manufacture a false pretext for their exacting retribution against the
patriotic americans who reported the three commie rat bastards for their
misappropriating technical resources americans furnished them with to
perform their US government jobs, NOT for libeling, harassing, and
stalking patriotic americans.
The commies rat bsatards who comprise the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Ring
didn't endeavor to protect the commies involved in the founding of the FMSF,
and, those holding public office in US border cities turning a blind eye to
commie human trafficing, etc, BY, their relentless stalking of Diana
Napolis, a patriotic american who quit her government job rather then
continue to be part of San Diego County Officialdom turning a blind eye to
San Diego County being transformed into a port for commies trafficing of
children, until, a few years AFTER the commies in the AUK and SPP Criminal
Stalking Ring succeeded in protecting the US government jobs of commie
Russians like Dmitry Pruss.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
Commies wrote the book on all this helter skelter type BS the AUK and SPP
Criminal Stalking Rings have been engaging in to protect the jobs of commie
criminal rat bastardes employed by the US government the commies have
corrupted, BY, contributing to the imprisonment, debilitation, and death
of Patriotic Americans.
The two commie rat bsatrads, (Viet Cong and Russian) who authored what's
known as the US Patriot Act, named it the Patriot Act to mock the patriotic
americans whom the commie bsatards who have corrupted the US Government
enacted the law to stalk and spy on, then, illegally wiretap.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_Dinh
The United States of America would NOT have all those Gulags a/k/a CIA
black, IF, America's central intelligence agency hadn't been infiltrated
and thoroughly corrupted by commie rat bastards.
The United States of America would NOT be kidnapping ten of thousands of
innocent Americans and imprisoning them in GULAGS a/k/a cia black cites IF
commie rat bastards hadn't infiltrated and coopted the US Federal
government.
America would not be utilizing communist North Korea's Torture Tactics on
the innocent Americans they kidnapped and are holding in commie run GULAGS
if the US government hadn't been infliltrated and corrupted by Commie Rat
bsatrads.
And, the commie run CIA wouldn't have funded a commie's establishment of
Google, IF, the commie run CIA hadn't been infiltrated and corrupted by
commie rat bsatards.
All the commie rat bastards stalking me, who are arhcing my
political speech, are doing so in anticipation of the day when the commie
rat bsatards
cooption of the US government is finished, and, the commie rat bastards
running the US Government begin implementing retribution and the final
solution against Patriotic americans who possses nothing but contempt for
the commie rat bastards who thoroughly corrupted the US government.
Anyone who doesn't know what the future will hold if Congress doesn't act
immediately to put a halt to the crimes of Bush, his flying, and, our
federal government being corrupted by commie rat bastards, can read all
about it here.
http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.
Interrogation
***************
***** The standard practice appears to be that those suspected of
'political crimes' (including minor actions which are interpreted as
showing insufficient respect) are detained and interrogated by the
State Security Agency. Some detainees describe being held at three
levels of the SSA system, namely, central government, province and
district or city levels.*****
Torture
**********
*****Interrogation routinely involves many forms of brutal and
horrific torture. Evidence obtained includes accounts of three
different types of water torture, severe beatings, sexual assault and
violation, as well as psychological and verbal abuse. Sleep
deprivation is a common tactic, which both victims and torturers have
commented is especially effective in interrogation. In some serious
cases this is induced through water torture where sleep is impossible
without drowning. Other cruel treatment includes suspending detainees
by their wrists from the ceiling or from bars, using blocks, guns,
holsters, metal poles and wooden pokers, as well as fists and boots,
to inflict terrible pain and injuries, and the insertion of objects
into the body, including the vagina.
Even outside the torture rooms, violence can be fierce. Those in the
cells who are deemed to be moving without permission have been forced
to put their hands through the bars of the door, where the guard
mercilessly beats or stamps on them until they are bleeding and the
skin is shredded. A prisoner detained for a minor offence described
the condition of one of his fellow inmates who had been placed in a
special punishment chamber. He described the man as looking
completely
black where he still had skin, but that much of his skin on his face
was missing, and all he could see were his eyes. The man was still
alive, though barely clinging to his life.
After the interrogation and torture in the SSA detention facilities a
decision is made as to which form of punishment will be imposed. No
case was heard in which a person accused of a political crime was
released from detention after this process of interrogation *****
-----
And, lots worse
http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.
Patriotic americans who don't want themselves, their sons and daughters,
their parents and grandparents, their friends and colleagues being tortured
to death by commie rat bastards who corrupted the US government, can let
congress know they want congress to hold Bush, his flying monkies, and his
army of US government employed commie rat bastards accountable for their
heinous crimes VIA the Moveon website, here.
http://pol.moveon.org/noimmunity/
Thanks!
Clearly Frankie, his sister and mum are rat *commie bastards
The criminal whom you call "Frankie" authors hate speech which makes that
criminal a dead ringer
for an alt.support.tourette poster named Bob Geller / Gish / Kish.
In May 2007, Meri S Kennedy published an article to Alt.support.tourette
"...I am Bob's little sister who was molested and raped by him."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/231d4f92a8c44c67?dmode=source
In May 2007, Meri published other articles to alt.support.tourette
informing readers she had authored a book titled "My Enemy, Myself"
wherein
she shared the story of her surviving a childhood marred by her having been
molested and raped by her manipulative and sadistic older brother, Bob
Geller, beginning, when she was a pre-schooler.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/c375d32663be379d?dmode=source
http://www.amazon.com/My-Enemy-Myself-Meri-Kennedy/dp/1424115949
Meri's publication of her book inspired other women, such as Carole L.,
to come forward with their tale of woe vis a vis Bob Geller / Gish / Kish.
" I am 1 year older than Meri and used to live a few houses down from
the Gellers. Bobby raped me when i was 5 years old. He made a tear
in my vagina and I was treated by a doctor at the then Cranston
General, the dr was a friend of Bobby's mother Jean Geller and when my
Mom had the police come in, the dr said she told him I hurt myself
while riding double on my brother's bike. The police did nothing."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/cf7cd64fd39428bb?dmode=source
Bob Geller / Gish / Kish was also a member of the gang of cyberstalkers
who endeavored to make alt.support.tourette into one long un-interrepted
info-mercial for recruiting unwitting parents to bring their children to the
Yale Child Study Center.
According to Bob Geller, from 1981-2005, when Bob Geller was 28-52 yo,
the Yale *Child* Study Center employed Bob Geller to *assist* Yale physicans
in the research/experiments being performed on infants, toddlers and
children at the Yale Child Study Center.
".....the operative word is the same word I have been preaching for 20 yrs
to deaf ears, save the Yale Child Study Center where I worked part time and
saw thousands of TS children ....."
See
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/12c34665f3ce1fd7?dmode=source
According to Bob Geller, the Yale Child Study Center had 28-52 year old Bob
Geller bunking with the infants, toddlers, and children residing in the
pediatric ward of Yale *Child* Study Center.
See
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/3a944cba1ca59b4f?dmode=source
Deliberate Creation of Multiple Personality by Psychiatrists
By Colin A. Ross MD
http://www.wanttoknow.info/bluebird10pg
"......unwitting citizens were experimented on by ..l doctors at Yale,
Harvard, McGill, Stanford, UCLA, and other major universities. These human
guinea pigs were never told that they were subjects in military and CIA mind
control experiments, and they never gave informed consent. They received no
systematic follow-up to document the harm done to them. The welfare of the
"human subjects" was not a relevant variable in the academic equation." The
... doctors saw their patients as biological machines, a view which made
them sub-human, and therefore easier to abuse in mind control experiments.
P. 91, 126"
11/09/2007
Association between atrocities Bush, Cheney, and, their band of Yale
educated flying monkeys, and, The Milgram Torture Experiment conducted on
students at Yale under investigation.
November 9, 2007 at 14:29:40
http://www.opednews.com
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE MILGRAM TORTURE EXPERIMENT MIGHT BE LINKED TO
RAISING OF DICK CHENEY & GEORGE W. BUSH
By Kevin Stoda
I don't know to what extent the subject of this article on Milgram, Bush and
Cheney has been raised before by historians and neurolinguistic programmers
for further investigation.
However, with the continued irate public response to another U.S. Attorney
General who promotes "water boarding" and other torture techniques, I have
decided to start looking at the biographies of George W. Bush and Dick
Cheney closely and see if there is any apparent reason to not link the
results of the seminal Stanley Milgram experiments (involving the study of
how willingly Americans and others can be trained to become executioners on
behalf of authority figures, etc.) and our American leaders today.
Within minutes of starting this research, I discovered that Milgram's, the
Yale psychologist's, experiments were carried out starting in 1961 (with the
first paper published in 1963, the year Bush entered Yale University).
At the time the experiments did not break any APA ethics. However, in the
wake of the abuse apparent in such experiments, heavier restrictions from
the APA have since been made-leading to little duplication of such
experiments. That is they are illegal and/or for APA publication and other
research purposes in the USA.
I also quickly discovered after doing just a little more research that Vice
President Dick Cheney was certainly attending Yale at the time of these
experiments.
Could it be that Cheney either participated in these experiments or knew of
the results of these experiments from first-hand participants (or actors or
assistants involved in the experiment) in the early 1960s? When did he
first know and what did he know? What did he think of such an experiment?
These Milgram obedience-experiments, begun in July 1961, were intended to
emulate what occurred under the Germans under Nazism and Fascism in the
1930s and 1940s Europe. The experiment, involving 40 subjects at Yale ,
measured the willingness of unsuspecting-participants to (1) obey
authorities and (2) to commit acts of torture on others-unto the point of
death of the subjects.
PURPOSE OF MILGRAM'S RESEARCH
Most introductions-to-psychology students are aware of Milgram's study.
He
began the experiment in 1961 just as the Adolf Eichmann trial in Israel was
wrapping up.
The procedure of the experiment is explained as follows: "A person comes to
the laboratory and, in the context of a learning experiment, is told to give
increasingly severe shocks to another person (who is actually an actor).
The purpose of the experiment is to see how far a subject will proceed
before refusing to comply with the experimenter's instructions. Twenty-six
of 40 subjects administered the highest shocks on the generator."
Milgram notes, " 'Behavioral study of obedience' was the first published
account of a series of studies I had taken at Yale University on the
response of individuals to destructive authority."
DESTRUCTIVE AUTHORITY?
Isn't obeying an executive branch indirect or direct order to conduct
water-boarding a good example of destructive authority? "Water boarding" is
even against the law in the USA and in almost all lands around the world.
What is not mentioned in many reviews of Milgram's seminal research is that
Yale University is the home to a great number of CIA agents and public
servants in the USA. As a matter of fact an almost identical statue of
Nathan Hale stands at both Yale University and in front of the CIA federal
building.
As is also well-known, Yale University is also home to the semi-infamous
Skull and Bones Society (fraternity) to which President George W. Bush once
belonged in the mid-1960s.
As in most traditional eastern fraternities, hazing-verging on torture-was
not unknown throughout the 1960s while Bush was at Yale. What did Bush
undergo in terms of acquiring obedience within a culture of authority
worship back in the 1960s?
QUESTIONS
(1) What is the relationship of Bush and Cheney to Milgram and similar
obedience research?
(2) How has this experiment and others like it affected modern American
history?
(3) How are understandings from such "educational research" affecting
American education and how the military, FBI, and other investigative
agencies carry out their work? The new Attorney General seems to believe in
such obedience.
(4) Has anyone sued in such cases successfully?
(5) Who actually participated as the original 40 "victim-subjects" in the
experiments?
(6) Were similar experiments prevalent at other universities where many
U.S. leaders come from?
I would be happy to promote discussion of these questions and to share
findings of other related research by psychologists, social psychologists,
trauma experts, and historians.
NOTES
Milgram, Stanley, "Behavioral Study of Obedience",
http://www.garfield.library.upenn.edu/classics1981/A1981LC33300001.pdf
Milgram, Stanley, (1974) OBEDIENCE TO AUTHORITY ,
http://66.102.1.104/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=cache:lqlvyBfYt84J:www.rci.rutgers.edu/~rudman/lecture13f05.pdf+
Milgram Experiment,
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/09/virtual-torture-experiment-revisits-classic-psych-obedience-test/
Ransome-Wiley, James, "Virtual Torture Experiment Revisits Classic Psych
Obedience Test",
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/09/virtual-torture-experiment-revisits-classic-psych-obedience-test/
Stoda, Kevin, "Appropriating Fiction for Reality: George W. Bush
LEADERSHIP
AND PROMOTION OF MIND AND BEHAVIORAL CONTROL",
http://the-teacher.blogspot.com/2007/01/appropriating-fiction-for-reality.html
KEVIN STODA has been blessed to have either traveled in or worked in nearly
100 countries on five continents over the past two and a half decades. He
sees himself as a peace educator and have been a promoter of good economic
and social development--making him an enemy of my homelands humongous
spending and its focus on using weapons to try and solve global issues.
"I am from Kansas so I also use the pseudonym 'Kansas' when I write and
publish. I keep two blogs--one with blogger and one with GNN. My writings
range from reviews to editorials or to travel observations. I also make
recommendations related to policy--having both a strong background in
teaching foreign languages and degrees in teaching in history and the social
sciences. As a midwesterner, I also write on religion and living out ones
faith whether it be as a Christian, Muslim or Buddhist perspective."
"On my own home page, I also provide information for language learners and
travelers" http://www.geocities.com/eslkevin/ ,
http://the-teacher.blogspot.com/ & http://alone.gnn.tv/
http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/opedne_alone_071109_is_it_possible_that_.htm
------
"The more people who say you are wrong, the more objective, and hence right,
you are."
-- Jon Swift, Journalism 101.
-------
Tag(s): Koochers K00KS, Koochers KILLERS, Bush, Cheney, Negroponte,
Co-Conspirators, Milgram, Seligman, Koocher, Psychopathy, Sociopathy,
Criminal Insanity, Crimes, Murder, War Crimes, Nuremberg, The Hague,
Kooks, Yale Child Study Center, Bob Geller, Joanne Cohen, Packer, Frank,
Blessedby2, TSNW, Alfred Enisz, Mark Morin, Gary Burnore, Steve Ruiz,
Micheal Acquino, Daniel L. Rogers, Eric S. Riddick, Kimberly K. Barnard,
Deborah Bentley, Ann Rein, Catherine McEvoy, Mark S. Probert, Joseph M.
Parsons, Child molestation, Rape,
Clearly Frankie is not only a commie but also a glowing avatar
for a pavement pizza.. three words describe this human stool
STINK STANK STUNK.. phew !
BTW.. Frankie's sock2sock posts also STINK STANK STUNK
Neither myself nor other US citizens can afford to worry about the criminal
activities of pissants like Frank & Co, when (republi-scum) elephants are
engaging in criminal activites on a mass scale intended to stomp US citizens
into the friggen ground.

Believe it or not, the Republi-scum recently declared America's Volvo,
Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie baking, stay at home, soccer moms
(current and former) the *Militant" Middle.

ROFLMAO!

Here's what America's Volvo, Jeep, and SUV driving, apple pie baking,
stay at home, soccer moms (current and former) did to get themselves
declared the *Militant" Middle by the commie rat bastards otherwise known as
the US RepubliSCUM party.

The Berkeley Daily Planet
Web www.berkeleydailyplanet.com


Grandmothers Break Oak Grove Siege
By Matthew Taylor, Special to the Planet
http://www.berkeleydaily.org/text/article.cfm?issue=11-27-07&storyID=28556

Oak grove tree-sitters had cause for gratitude on Thanksgiving when over 80
Berkeley community members and students, led by the "Berkeley Grandmothers
for the Oaks," defied UC police orders, risked arrest, and successfully
delivered bulging bags of food and jugs of water to the arboreal protestors.

"This is truly the power of the people. We used our group spirit and group
strength to do what none of us could have done alone," said Karen Pickett of
the Bay Area Coalition for the Headwaters.

"They've been arresting people one by one, so this was just perfect that we
could come together as this group with grandmothers in the very center of
the circle and send sustenance up to the tree-sitters," added Pickett.

The communal act of civil disobedience followed an intense week of arrests
at the grove. UC police arrested at least eight people in the preceding
three days for allegedly providing various forms of support to the
tree-sitters, such as delivering food and water or audibly warning
tree-sitters of the presence of police. On Wednesday alone, UC police
arrested five people including three students, one of whom spent the holiday
in Santa Rita Jail. All five were held on $10,000 bail.

As I arrived at the oak grove at 11 a.m. on Thanksgiving Day, I saw elderly
women and other community members on the sidewalk pathway in front of the
fenced-in grove lugging delectable acorn pies, stuffing, canned food, and
hefty five-gallon water jugs. Officer Baird read Alameda County Superior
Court Judge Richard Keller's order to the crowd and threatened to arrest
them if they sent supplies into the trees.

Lesley Emmington said she wanted to bring an offering to the tree-sitters
even if it meant risking arrest.

"If you came here at nighttime, this is like a Guantanamo situation. There
are strobe lights [pointed at the tree-sitters] ... the young people are
being harassed. What's the problem with me coming and bringing food?" said
Emmington.

After milling about for a few minutes, unsure of how to proceed in the face
of police threats, several community members began to spontaneously sing and
play the fiddle. The crowd gathered into a circle, hugging each other
tightly, and sang Civil Rights Movement-era activist songs modified to fit
their cause.

"Ain't gonna let no Regents turn us around, turn us around . Gonna save the
oak grove trees," they sang in an ever-strengthening voice, building the
confidence of all assembled.

A few feet from where I stood, environmental advocate Redwood Mary turned to
face one of the UC policemen, Officer Moody, and reminded him that in the
city of Berkeley, it's illegal to cut down any of the targeted trees in the
grove. She said UC was ignoring the will of Berkeley voters.

"We're going to jail because we're standing for our own laws . We're not
doing civil disobedience, we're here to enforce the law," said Redwood Mary.

Mary then added in a soft, kindly voice, "I'm asking the police, will you
allow me to give a pie? What would happen to me if I give food to another
human being who's hungry on Thanksgiving?"
Officer Moody kept his gaze averted and replied, "You heard the judge's
order."

Tree-sitters then dropped a rope into the human circle, and several people
attached a bag of food. With at least eight pairs of hands touching the bag,
the message was clear: "If you're going to arrest one of us, you'll have to
arrest all of us."

"This food and this water are weapons of dissent," said Redwood Mary. "This
is an act of terrorism," joked Matthew Dodt of Copwatch. "Providing pie is
not a criminal act," called out Pickett.

The officers did nothing as tree-sitter Shem pulled the first bag up into
the trees, accompanied by cheers from the crowd. After that, it was a
free-for-all, as people sent up the rest of the food and water.

Soon enough, the police officers at the scene visibly relaxed and the
tension dissipated. By the end of the gathering, police and community
members exchanged wishes of "Happy Thanksgiving."
The tree-sitters had another message to remind everyone of the significance
of the day.

"Thanksgiving is an imperialist holiday to celebrate the conquest of
America. But Thanksgiving is also a day for sharing food and getting
together with friends, and that's what we're doing. We're turning
Thanksgiving into a day of resistance to power, and I feel great,"
proclaimed tree-sitter Millipede.

The community members had come at the behest of tree-sitters, who posted
flyers across town imploring supporters to "respect Native sovereignty,
protect this Native American burial ground, and resist the starvation of
protestors."

Many people offered gratitude to the police for not interfering. When
questioned, the police offered no explanation for their decision not to
follow through on their previous threats.

"Even though there were laws that were violated, we decided to just
observe," said Moody. Security guards videotaped the proceedings.

"By picking and choosing who they're going to enforce the judge's order
against, UCPD is committing selective enforcement, which is illegal," Jake
Gelender of Copwatch later told me.
Asked if she was afraid of being arrested, Redwood Mary responded, "Yes, I
was. But sometimes you have to walk through your fear to do the right
thing.. I trusted that the Creator would protect us and that we would be
successful since we acted in nonviolence and from a place of love and
spontaneity."

When told that officers might yet arrest her and others at a later date,
Redwood Mary said, "That may happen, because the police have been arresting
people from the streets when they're not near the grove. This is how the
University is wasting our taxpayer money. This fence cost over $80,000! This
double fence with barbed wire is a human rights violation."

Following the success of the Thanksgiving food delivery, UC Police
introduced a new threat. On Friday night, a UC police officer told me that
he would arrest anyone who had a conversation with the tree-sitters, no
matter what the topic. The officer disagreed with Copwatch representative
Matthew Dodt's argument that speaking with the tree-sitters was
constitutionally protected free speech. The officer stated that speaking to
tree-sitters is, according to UC's lawyers, a violation of Judge Keller's
order. While the order forbids specific actions such as "placing objects" in
the trees and "climbing" in the trees, it says nothing about "speaking" to
the tree-sitters, nor does it imply that such conversations are forbidden.

A birthday party to celebrate the one-year anniversary of the tree-sit will
be held at the oak grove Sunday, Dec. 2 from noon to 6 p.m. The Berkeley
Grandmothers for the Oaks have announced plans to send more food and water
to the tree-sitters on Sunday at 2 p.m. They've asked community members to
bring lots of non-perishable food, mostly vegan, and water jugs with lids
and handles.
Matthew Taylor is a UC Berkeley Peace and Conflict Studies student and a
founding member of the

Free Speech Free Trees Student Coalition.
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Post by Frank
Notice Linda's support for commie countries
Do *you* ever see any commies under your bed *stoopid* huh ?
All the commie rat bsatards criminally stalking, spying upon, and illegally
wiretapping patriotic americans do.
After all, commie rat bsatards PROJECT like everyone else.
In case you aren't aware of it, it was three commie Russians employed by
the US government (which communists, Russians and otherwise) have
thoroughly corrupted), who were among the first criminal rat bsatards whose
US government jobs the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Ring sought to protect,
by, the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Rings publishing articles in which
they falsely depicted their three communist comrades as "victims" to
manufacture a false pretext for their exacting retribution against the
patriotic americans who reported the three commie rat bastards for their
misappropriating technical resources americans furnished them with to
perform their US government jobs, NOT for libeling, harassing, and
stalking patriotic americans.
The commies rat bsatards who comprise the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Ring
didn't endeavor to protect the commies involved in the founding of the FMSF,
and, those holding public office in US border cities turning a blind eye to
commie human trafficing, etc, BY, their relentless stalking of Diana
Napolis, a patriotic american who quit her government job rather then
continue to be part of San Diego County Officialdom turning a blind eye to
San Diego County being transformed into a port for commies trafficing of
children, until, a few years AFTER the commies in the AUK and SPP Criminal
Stalking Ring succeeded in protecting the US government jobs of commie
Russians like Dmitry Pruss.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
Commies wrote the book on all this helter skelter type BS the AUK and SPP
Criminal Stalking Rings have been engaging in to protect the jobs of commie
criminal rat bastardes employed by the US government the commies have
corrupted, BY, contributing to the imprisonment, debilitation, and death
of Patriotic Americans.
The two commie rat bsatrads, (Viet Cong and Russian) who authored what's
known as the US Patriot Act, named it the Patriot Act to mock the patriotic
americans whom the commie bsatards who have corrupted the US Government
enacted the law to stalk and spy on, then, illegally wiretap.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_Dinh
The United States of America would NOT have all those Gulags a/k/a CIA
black, IF, America's central intelligence agency hadn't been infiltrated
and thoroughly corrupted by commie rat bastards.
The United States of America would NOT be kidnapping ten of thousands of
innocent Americans and imprisoning them in GULAGS a/k/a cia black cites IF
commie rat bastards hadn't infiltrated and coopted the US Federal
government.
America would not be utilizing communist North Korea's Torture Tactics on
the innocent Americans they kidnapped and are holding in commie run GULAGS
if the US government hadn't been infliltrated and corrupted by Commie Rat
bsatrads.
And, the commie run CIA wouldn't have funded a commie's establishment of
Google, IF, the commie run CIA hadn't been infiltrated and corrupted by
commie rat bsatards.
All the commie rat bastards stalking me, who are arhcing my
political speech, are doing so in anticipation of the day when the commie
rat bsatards
cooption of the US government is finished, and, the commie rat bastards
running the US Government begin implementing retribution and the final
solution against Patriotic americans who possses nothing but contempt for
the commie rat bastards who thoroughly corrupted the US government.
Anyone who doesn't know what the future will hold if Congress doesn't act
immediately to put a halt to the crimes of Bush, his flying, and, our
federal government being corrupted by commie rat bastards, can read all
about it here.
http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.
Interrogation
***************
***** The standard practice appears to be that those suspected of
'political crimes' (including minor actions which are interpreted as
showing insufficient respect) are detained and interrogated by the
State Security Agency. Some detainees describe being held at three
levels of the SSA system, namely, central government, province and
district or city levels.*****
Torture
**********
*****Interrogation routinely involves many forms of brutal and
horrific torture. Evidence obtained includes accounts of three
different types of water torture, severe beatings, sexual assault and
violation, as well as psychological and verbal abuse. Sleep
deprivation is a common tactic, which both victims and torturers have
commented is especially effective in interrogation. In some serious
cases this is induced through water torture where sleep is impossible
without drowning. Other cruel treatment includes suspending detainees
by their wrists from the ceiling or from bars, using blocks, guns,
holsters, metal poles and wooden pokers, as well as fists and boots,
to inflict terrible pain and injuries, and the insertion of objects
into the body, including the vagina.
Even outside the torture rooms, violence can be fierce. Those in the
cells who are deemed to be moving without permission have been forced
to put their hands through the bars of the door, where the guard
mercilessly beats or stamps on them until they are bleeding and the
skin is shredded. A prisoner detained for a minor offence described
the condition of one of his fellow inmates who had been placed in a
special punishment chamber. He described the man as looking
completely
black where he still had skin, but that much of his skin on his face
was missing, and all he could see were his eyes. The man was still
alive, though barely clinging to his life.
After the interrogation and torture in the SSA detention facilities a
decision is made as to which form of punishment will be imposed. No
case was heard in which a person accused of a political crime was
released from detention after this process of interrogation *****
-----
And, lots worse
http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.
Patriotic americans who don't want themselves, their sons and daughters,
their parents and grandparents, their friends and colleagues being tortured
to death by commie rat bastards who corrupted the US government, can let
congress know they want congress to hold Bush, his flying monkies, and his
army of US government employed commie rat bastards accountable for their
heinous crimes VIA the Moveon website, here.
http://pol.moveon.org/noimmunity/
Thanks!
Clearly Frankie, his sister and mum are rat *commie bastards
The criminal whom you call "Frankie" authors hate speech which makes that
criminal a dead ringer
for an alt.support.tourette poster named Bob Geller / Gish / Kish.
In May 2007, Meri S Kennedy published an article to Alt.support.tourette
"...I am Bob's little sister who was molested and raped by him."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/231d4f92a8c44c67?dmode=source
In May 2007, Meri published other articles to alt.support.tourette
informing readers she had authored a book titled "My Enemy, Myself"
wherein she shared the story of her surviving a childhood marred by her
having been molested and raped by her manipulative and sadistic older
brother, Bob Geller, beginning, when she was a pre-schooler.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/c375d32663be379d?dmode=source
http://www.amazon.com/My-Enemy-Myself-Meri-Kennedy/dp/1424115949
Meri's publication of her book inspired other women, such as Carole L.,
to come forward with their tale of woe vis a vis Bob Geller / Gish / Kish.
" I am 1 year older than Meri and used to live a few houses down from
the Gellers. Bobby raped me when i was 5 years old. He made a tear
in my vagina and I was treated by a doctor at the then Cranston
General, the dr was a friend of Bobby's mother Jean Geller and when my
Mom had the police come in, the dr said she told him I hurt myself
while riding double on my brother's bike. The police did nothing."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/cf7cd64fd39428bb?dmode=source
Bob Geller / Gish / Kish was also a member of the gang of cyberstalkers
who endeavored to make alt.support.tourette into one long un-interrepted
info-mercial for recruiting unwitting parents to bring their children to
the Yale Child Study Center.
According to Bob Geller, from 1981-2005, when Bob Geller was 28-52 yo,
the Yale *Child* Study Center employed Bob Geller to *assist* Yale
physicans in the research/experiments being performed on infants,
toddlers and children at the Yale Child Study Center.
".....the operative word is the same word I have been preaching for 20 yrs
to deaf ears, save the Yale Child Study Center where I worked part time
and saw thousands of TS children ....."
See
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/12c34665f3ce1fd7?dmode=source
According to Bob Geller, the Yale Child Study Center had 28-52 year old
Bob Geller bunking with the infants, toddlers, and children residing in
the pediatric ward of Yale *Child* Study Center.
See
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/3a944cba1ca59b4f?dmode=source
Deliberate Creation of Multiple Personality by Psychiatrists
By Colin A. Ross MD
http://www.wanttoknow.info/bluebird10pg
"......unwitting citizens were experimented on by ..l doctors at Yale,
Harvard, McGill, Stanford, UCLA, and other major universities. These human
guinea pigs were never told that they were subjects in military and CIA
mind control experiments, and they never gave informed consent. They
received no systematic follow-up to document the harm done to them. The
welfare of the "human subjects" was not a relevant variable in the
academic equation." The ... doctors saw their patients as biological
machines, a view which made them sub-human, and therefore easier to abuse
in mind control experiments. P. 91, 126"
Oops!

I can't believe I forget to mention the real kicker!

In 2003, Bob Geller / Gish / Kish was rewarded for his having been a creep
lil Fcuk all his life by his being approved to adopt a baby girl from Red
China.

In 2006, or early 2007, he was rewarded a second time, by his being
approved for a second adoption of a second baby girl from Red
China...........
Post by indomitable2
11/09/2007
Association between atrocities Bush, Cheney, and, their band of Yale
educated flying monkeys, and, The Milgram Torture Experiment conducted on
students at Yale under investigation.
November 9, 2007 at 14:29:40
http://www.opednews.com
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE MILGRAM TORTURE EXPERIMENT MIGHT BE LINKED TO
RAISING OF DICK CHENEY & GEORGE W. BUSH
By Kevin Stoda
I don't know to what extent the subject of this article on Milgram, Bush
and Cheney has been raised before by historians and neurolinguistic
programmers for further investigation.
However, with the continued irate public response to another U.S. Attorney
General who promotes "water boarding" and other torture techniques, I have
decided to start looking at the biographies of George W. Bush and Dick
Cheney closely and see if there is any apparent reason to not link the
results of the seminal Stanley Milgram experiments (involving the study of
how willingly Americans and others can be trained to become executioners
on behalf of authority figures, etc.) and our American leaders today.
Within minutes of starting this research, I discovered that Milgram's, the
Yale psychologist's, experiments were carried out starting in 1961 (with
the first paper published in 1963, the year Bush entered Yale University).
At the time the experiments did not break any APA ethics. However, in the
wake of the abuse apparent in such experiments, heavier restrictions from
the APA have since been made-leading to little duplication of such
experiments. That is they are illegal and/or for APA publication and
other research purposes in the USA.
I also quickly discovered after doing just a little more research that
Vice President Dick Cheney was certainly attending Yale at the time of
these experiments.
Could it be that Cheney either participated in these experiments or knew
of the results of these experiments from first-hand participants (or
actors or assistants involved in the experiment) in the early 1960s? When
did he first know and what did he know? What did he think of such an
experiment?
These Milgram obedience-experiments, begun in July 1961, were intended to
emulate what occurred under the Germans under Nazism and Fascism in the
1930s and 1940s Europe. The experiment, involving 40 subjects at Yale ,
measured the willingness of unsuspecting-participants to (1) obey
authorities and (2) to commit acts of torture on others-unto the point of
death of the subjects.
PURPOSE OF MILGRAM'S RESEARCH
Most introductions-to-psychology students are aware of Milgram's study.
He began the experiment in 1961 just as the Adolf Eichmann trial in Israel
was wrapping up.
The procedure of the experiment is explained as follows: "A person comes
to the laboratory and, in the context of a learning experiment, is told to
give increasingly severe shocks to another person (who is actually an
actor). The purpose of the experiment is to see how far a subject will
proceed before refusing to comply with the experimenter's instructions.
Twenty-six of 40 subjects administered the highest shocks on the
generator."
Milgram notes, " 'Behavioral study of obedience' was the first published
account of a series of studies I had taken at Yale University on the
response of individuals to destructive authority."
DESTRUCTIVE AUTHORITY?
Isn't obeying an executive branch indirect or direct order to conduct
water-boarding a good example of destructive authority? "Water boarding"
is even against the law in the USA and in almost all lands around the
world.
What is not mentioned in many reviews of Milgram's seminal research is
that Yale University is the home to a great number of CIA agents and
public servants in the USA. As a matter of fact an almost identical
statue of Nathan Hale stands at both Yale University and in front of the
CIA federal building.
As is also well-known, Yale University is also home to the semi-infamous
Skull and Bones Society (fraternity) to which President George W. Bush
once belonged in the mid-1960s.
As in most traditional eastern fraternities, hazing-verging on torture-was
not unknown throughout the 1960s while Bush was at Yale. What did Bush
undergo in terms of acquiring obedience within a culture of authority
worship back in the 1960s?
QUESTIONS
(1) What is the relationship of Bush and Cheney to Milgram and similar
obedience research?
(2) How has this experiment and others like it affected modern American
history?
(3) How are understandings from such "educational research" affecting
American education and how the military, FBI, and other investigative
agencies carry out their work? The new Attorney General seems to believe
in such obedience.
(4) Has anyone sued in such cases successfully?
(5) Who actually participated as the original 40 "victim-subjects" in
the experiments?
(6) Were similar experiments prevalent at other universities where many
U.S. leaders come from?
I would be happy to promote discussion of these questions and to share
findings of other related research by psychologists, social psychologists,
trauma experts, and historians.
NOTES
Milgram, Stanley, "Behavioral Study of Obedience",
http://www.garfield.library.upenn.edu/classics1981/A1981LC33300001.pdf
Milgram, Stanley, (1974) OBEDIENCE TO AUTHORITY ,
http://66.102.1.104/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=cache:lqlvyBfYt84J:www.rci.rutgers.edu/~rudman/lecture13f05.pdf+
Milgram Experiment,
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/09/virtual-torture-experiment-revisits-classic-psych-obedience-test/
Ransome-Wiley, James, "Virtual Torture Experiment Revisits Classic Psych
Obedience Test",
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/09/virtual-torture-experiment-revisits-classic-psych-obedience-test/
Stoda, Kevin, "Appropriating Fiction for Reality: George W. Bush
LEADERSHIP AND PROMOTION OF MIND AND BEHAVIORAL CONTROL",
http://the-teacher.blogspot.com/2007/01/appropriating-fiction-for-reality.html
KEVIN STODA has been blessed to have either traveled in or worked in
nearly 100 countries on five continents over the past two and a half
decades. He sees himself as a peace educator and have been a promoter
of good economic and social development--making him an enemy of my
homelands humongous spending and its focus on using weapons to try and
solve global issues.
"I am from Kansas so I also use the pseudonym 'Kansas' when I write and
publish. I keep two blogs--one with blogger and one with GNN. My
writings range from reviews to editorials or to travel observations. I
also make recommendations related to policy--having both a strong
background in teaching foreign languages and degrees in teaching in
history and the social sciences. As a midwesterner, I also write on
religion and living out ones faith whether it be as a Christian, Muslim or
Buddhist perspective."
"On my own home page, I also provide information for language learners and
travelers" http://www.geocities.com/eslkevin/ ,
http://the-teacher.blogspot.com/ & http://alone.gnn.tv/
http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/opedne_alone_071109_is_it_possible_that_.htm
------
"The more people who say you are wrong, the more objective, and hence
right, you are."
-- Jon Swift, Journalism 101.
-------
Tag(s): Koochers K00KS, Koochers KILLERS, Bush, Cheney, Negroponte,
Co-Conspirators, Milgram, Seligman, Koocher, Psychopathy, Sociopathy,
Criminal Insanity, Crimes, Murder, War Crimes, Nuremberg, The Hague,
Kooks, Yale Child Study Center, Bob Geller, Joanne Cohen, Packer,
Frank, Blessedby2, TSNW, Alfred Enisz, Mark Morin, Gary Burnore,
Steve Ruiz, Micheal Acquino, Daniel L. Rogers, Eric S. Riddick,
Kimberly K. Barnard, Deborah Bentley, Ann Rein, Catherine McEvoy, Mark S.
Probert, Joseph M. Parsons, Child molestation, Rape,
indomitable2
2007-12-04 21:27:58 UTC
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Post by Frank
Notice Linda's support for commie countries
Do *you* ever see any commies under your bed *stoopid* huh ?
All the commie rat bsatards criminally stalking, spying upon, and illegally
wiretapping patriotic americans do.
After all, commie rat bsatards PROJECT like everyone else.
In case you aren't aware of it, it was three commie Russians employed by
the US government (which communists, Russians and otherwise) have
thoroughly corrupted), who were among the first criminal rat bsatards whose
US government jobs the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Ring sought to protect,
by, the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Rings publishing articles in which
they falsely depicted their three communist comrades as "victims" to
manufacture a false pretext for their exacting retribution against the
patriotic americans who reported the three commie rat bastards for their
misappropriating technical resources americans furnished them with to
perform their US government jobs, NOT for libeling, harassing, and
stalking patriotic americans.
The commies rat bsatards who comprise the AUK and SPP Criminal Stalking Ring
didn't endeavor to protect the commies involved in the founding of the FMSF,
and, those holding public office in US border cities turning a blind eye to
commie human trafficing, etc, BY, their relentless stalking of Diana
Napolis, a patriotic american who quit her government job rather then
continue to be part of San Diego County Officialdom turning a blind eye to
San Diego County being transformed into a port for commies trafficing of
children, until, a few years AFTER the commies in the AUK and SPP Criminal
Stalking Ring succeeded in protecting the US government jobs of commie
Russians like Dmitry Pruss.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
Commies wrote the book on all this helter skelter type BS the AUK and SPP
Criminal Stalking Rings have been engaging in to protect the jobs of commie
criminal rat bastardes employed by the US government the commies have
corrupted, BY, contributing to the imprisonment, debilitation, and death
of Patriotic Americans.
The two commie rat bsatrads, (Viet Cong and Russian) who authored what's
known as the US Patriot Act, named it the Patriot Act to mock the patriotic
americans whom the commie bsatards who have corrupted the US Government
enacted the law to stalk and spy on, then, illegally wiretap.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_Dinh
The United States of America would NOT have all those Gulags a/k/a CIA
black, IF, America's central intelligence agency hadn't been infiltrated
and thoroughly corrupted by commie rat bastards.
The United States of America would NOT be kidnapping ten of thousands of
innocent Americans and imprisoning them in GULAGS a/k/a cia black cites IF
commie rat bastards hadn't infiltrated and coopted the US Federal
government.
America would not be utilizing communist North Korea's Torture Tactics on
the innocent Americans they kidnapped and are holding in commie run GULAGS
if the US government hadn't been infliltrated and corrupted by Commie Rat
bsatrads.
And, the commie run CIA wouldn't have funded a commie's establishment of
Google, IF, the commie run CIA hadn't been infiltrated and corrupted by
commie rat bsatards.
All the commie rat bastards stalking me, who are arhcing my
political speech, are doing so in anticipation of the day when the commie
rat bsatards
cooption of the US government is finished, and, the commie rat bastards
running the US Government begin implementing retribution and the final
solution against Patriotic americans who possses nothing but contempt for
the commie rat bastards who thoroughly corrupted the US government.
Anyone who doesn't know what the future will hold if Congress doesn't act
immediately to put a halt to the crimes of Bush, his flying, and, our
federal government being corrupted by commie rat bastards, can read all
about it here.
http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.
Interrogation
***************
***** The standard practice appears to be that those suspected of
'political crimes' (including minor actions which are interpreted as
showing insufficient respect) are detained and interrogated by the
State Security Agency. Some detainees describe being held at three
levels of the SSA system, namely, central government, province and
district or city levels.*****
Torture
**********
*****Interrogation routinely involves many forms of brutal and
horrific torture. Evidence obtained includes accounts of three
different types of water torture, severe beatings, sexual assault and
violation, as well as psychological and verbal abuse. Sleep
deprivation is a common tactic, which both victims and torturers have
commented is especially effective in interrogation. In some serious
cases this is induced through water torture where sleep is impossible
without drowning. Other cruel treatment includes suspending detainees
by their wrists from the ceiling or from bars, using blocks, guns,
holsters, metal poles and wooden pokers, as well as fists and boots,
to inflict terrible pain and injuries, and the insertion of objects
into the body, including the vagina.
Even outside the torture rooms, violence can be fierce. Those in the
cells who are deemed to be moving without permission have been forced
to put their hands through the bars of the door, where the guard
mercilessly beats or stamps on them until they are bleeding and the
skin is shredded. A prisoner detained for a minor offence described
the condition of one of his fellow inmates who had been placed in a
special punishment chamber. He described the man as looking
completely
black where he still had skin, but that much of his skin on his face
was missing, and all he could see were his eyes. The man was still
alive, though barely clinging to his life.
After the interrogation and torture in the SSA detention facilities a
decision is made as to which form of punishment will be imposed. No
case was heard in which a person accused of a political crime was
released from detention after this process of interrogation *****
-----
And, lots worse
http://www.prayfornorthkorea.org/Resources/Human%20Rights%20Report.pdf.
Patriotic americans who don't want themselves, their sons and daughters,
their parents and grandparents, their friends and colleagues being tortured
to death by commie rat bastards who corrupted the US government, can let
congress know they want congress to hold Bush, his flying monkies, and his
army of US government employed commie rat bastards accountable for their
heinous crimes VIA the Moveon website, here.
http://pol.moveon.org/noimmunity/
Thanks!
Clearly Frankie, his sister and mum are rat *commie bastards
The criminal whom you call "Frankie" authors hate speech which makes that
criminal a dead ringer
for an alt.support.tourette poster named Bob Geller / Gish / Kish.
In May 2007, Meri S Kennedy published an article to Alt.support.tourette
"...I am Bob's little sister who was molested and raped by him."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/231d4f92a8c44c67?dmode=source
In May 2007, Meri published other articles to alt.support.tourette
informing readers she had authored a book titled "My Enemy, Myself"
wherein she shared the story of her surviving a childhood marred by her
having been molested and raped by her manipulative and sadistic older
brother, Bob Geller, beginning, when she was a pre-schooler.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/c375d32663be379d?dmode=source
http://www.amazon.com/My-Enemy-Myself-Meri-Kennedy/dp/1424115949
Meri's publication of her book inspired other women, such as Carole L.,
to come forward with their tale of woe vis a vis Bob Geller / Gish / Kish.
" I am 1 year older than Meri and used to live a few houses down from
the Gellers. Bobby raped me when i was 5 years old. He made a tear
in my vagina and I was treated by a doctor at the then Cranston
General, the dr was a friend of Bobby's mother Jean Geller and when my
Mom had the police come in, the dr said she told him I hurt myself
while riding double on my brother's bike. The police did nothing."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/cf7cd64fd39428bb?dmode=source
Bob Geller / Gish / Kish was also a member of the gang of cyberstalkers
who endeavored to make alt.support.tourette into one long un-interrepted
info-mercial for recruiting unwitting parents to bring their children to
the Yale Child Study Center.
According to Bob Geller, from 1981-2005, when Bob Geller was 28-52 yo,
the Yale *Child* Study Center employed Bob Geller to *assist* Yale
physicans in the research/experiments being performed on infants,
toddlers and children at the Yale Child Study Center.
".....the operative word is the same word I have been preaching for 20
yrs to deaf ears, save the Yale Child Study Center where I worked part
time and saw thousands of TS children ....."
See
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/12c34665f3ce1fd7?dmode=source
According to Bob Geller, the Yale Child Study Center had 28-52 year old
Bob Geller bunking with the infants, toddlers, and children residing in
the pediatric ward of Yale *Child* Study Center.
See
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/3a944cba1ca59b4f?dmode=source
Deliberate Creation of Multiple Personality by Psychiatrists
By Colin A. Ross MD
http://www.wanttoknow.info/bluebird10pg
"......unwitting citizens were experimented on by ..l doctors at Yale,
Harvard, McGill, Stanford, UCLA, and other major universities. These
human guinea pigs were never told that they were subjects in military and
CIA mind control experiments, and they never gave informed consent. They
received no systematic follow-up to document the harm done to them. The
welfare of the "human subjects" was not a relevant variable in the
academic equation." The ... doctors saw their patients as biological
machines, a view which made them sub-human, and therefore easier to abuse
in mind control experiments. P. 91, 126"
Oops!
I can't believe I forget to mention the real kicker!
In 2003, Bob Geller / Gish / Kish was rewarded for his having been a
creep lil Fcuk all his life by his being approved to adopt a baby girl
from Red China.
In 2006, or early 2007, he was rewarded a second time, by his being
approved for a second adoption of a second baby girl from Red
China...........
In March 2007, Red China adopted new restrictions on US citizens adoption
of Chinese babies to ensure that creepy old fcuks like Bob Geller can no
longer adopt chinese baby girls.

China's New Adoption Laws Thursday, March 22, 2007
By Catherine Donaldson-Evans

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,260391,00.html
Post by indomitable2
Post by indomitable2
11/09/2007
Association between atrocities Bush, Cheney, and, their band of Yale
educated flying monkeys, and, The Milgram Torture Experiment conducted
on students at Yale under investigation.
November 9, 2007 at 14:29:40
http://www.opednews.com
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE MILGRAM TORTURE EXPERIMENT MIGHT BE LINKED TO
RAISING OF DICK CHENEY & GEORGE W. BUSH
By Kevin Stoda
I don't know to what extent the subject of this article on Milgram, Bush
and Cheney has been raised before by historians and neurolinguistic
programmers for further investigation.
However, with the continued irate public response to another U.S.
Attorney General who promotes "water boarding" and other torture
techniques, I have decided to start looking at the biographies of George
W. Bush and Dick Cheney closely and see if there is any apparent reason
to not link the results of the seminal Stanley Milgram experiments
(involving the study of how willingly Americans and others can be trained
to become executioners on behalf of authority figures, etc.) and our
American leaders today.
Within minutes of starting this research, I discovered that Milgram's,
the Yale psychologist's, experiments were carried out starting in 1961
(with the first paper published in 1963, the year Bush entered Yale
University).
At the time the experiments did not break any APA ethics. However, in
the wake of the abuse apparent in such experiments, heavier restrictions
from the APA have since been made-leading to little duplication of such
experiments. That is they are illegal and/or for APA publication and
other research purposes in the USA.
I also quickly discovered after doing just a little more research that
Vice President Dick Cheney was certainly attending Yale at the time of
these experiments.
Could it be that Cheney either participated in these experiments or knew
of the results of these experiments from first-hand participants (or
actors or assistants involved in the experiment) in the early 1960s?
When did he first know and what did he know? What did he think of such
an experiment?
These Milgram obedience-experiments, begun in July 1961, were intended to
emulate what occurred under the Germans under Nazism and Fascism in the
1930s and 1940s Europe. The experiment, involving 40 subjects at Yale ,
measured the willingness of unsuspecting-participants to (1) obey
authorities and (2) to commit acts of torture on others-unto the point of
death of the subjects.
PURPOSE OF MILGRAM'S RESEARCH
Most introductions-to-psychology students are aware of Milgram's study.
He began the experiment in 1961 just as the Adolf Eichmann trial in
Israel was wrapping up.
The procedure of the experiment is explained as follows: "A person comes
to the laboratory and, in the context of a learning experiment, is told
to give increasingly severe shocks to another person (who is actually an
actor). The purpose of the experiment is to see how far a subject will
proceed before refusing to comply with the experimenter's instructions.
Twenty-six of 40 subjects administered the highest shocks on the
generator."
Milgram notes, " 'Behavioral study of obedience' was the first published
account of a series of studies I had taken at Yale University on the
response of individuals to destructive authority."
DESTRUCTIVE AUTHORITY?
Isn't obeying an executive branch indirect or direct order to conduct
water-boarding a good example of destructive authority? "Water boarding"
is even against the law in the USA and in almost all lands around the
world.
What is not mentioned in many reviews of Milgram's seminal research is
that Yale University is the home to a great number of CIA agents and
public servants in the USA. As a matter of fact an almost identical
statue of Nathan Hale stands at both Yale University and in front of the
CIA federal building.
As is also well-known, Yale University is also home to the semi-infamous
Skull and Bones Society (fraternity) to which President George W. Bush
once belonged in the mid-1960s.
As in most traditional eastern fraternities, hazing-verging on
torture-was not unknown throughout the 1960s while Bush was at Yale.
What did Bush undergo in terms of acquiring obedience within a culture of
authority worship back in the 1960s?
QUESTIONS
(1) What is the relationship of Bush and Cheney to Milgram and similar
obedience research?
(2) How has this experiment and others like it affected modern American
history?
(3) How are understandings from such "educational research" affecting
American education and how the military, FBI, and other investigative
agencies carry out their work? The new Attorney General seems to believe
in such obedience.
(4) Has anyone sued in such cases successfully?
(5) Who actually participated as the original 40 "victim-subjects" in
the experiments?
(6) Were similar experiments prevalent at other universities where many
U.S. leaders come from?
I would be happy to promote discussion of these questions and to share
findings of other related research by psychologists, social
psychologists, trauma experts, and historians.
NOTES
Milgram, Stanley, "Behavioral Study of Obedience",
http://www.garfield.library.upenn.edu/classics1981/A1981LC33300001.pdf
Milgram, Stanley, (1974) OBEDIENCE TO AUTHORITY ,
http://66.102.1.104/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=cache:lqlvyBfYt84J:www.rci.rutgers.edu/~rudman/lecture13f05.pdf+
Milgram Experiment,
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/09/virtual-torture-experiment-revisits-classic-psych-obedience-test/
Ransome-Wiley, James, "Virtual Torture Experiment Revisits Classic Psych
Obedience Test",
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/09/virtual-torture-experiment-revisits-classic-psych-obedience-test/
Stoda, Kevin, "Appropriating Fiction for Reality: George W. Bush
LEADERSHIP AND PROMOTION OF MIND AND BEHAVIORAL CONTROL",
http://the-teacher.blogspot.com/2007/01/appropriating-fiction-for-reality.html
KEVIN STODA has been blessed to have either traveled in or worked in
nearly 100 countries on five continents over the past two and a half
decades. He sees himself as a peace educator and have been a promoter
of good economic and social development--making him an enemy of my
homelands humongous spending and its focus on using weapons to try and
solve global issues.
"I am from Kansas so I also use the pseudonym 'Kansas' when I write and
publish. I keep two blogs--one with blogger and one with GNN. My
writings range from reviews to editorials or to travel observations. I
also make recommendations related to policy--having both a strong
background in teaching foreign languages and degrees in teaching in
history and the social sciences. As a midwesterner, I also write on
religion and living out ones faith whether it be as a Christian, Muslim
or Buddhist perspective."
"On my own home page, I also provide information for language learners
and travelers" http://www.geocities.com/eslkevin/ ,
http://the-teacher.blogspot.com/ & http://alone.gnn.tv/
http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/opedne_alone_071109_is_it_possible_that_.htm
------
"The more people who say you are wrong, the more objective, and hence
right, you are."
-- Jon Swift, Journalism 101.
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Tag(s): Koochers K00KS, Koochers KILLERS, Bush, Cheney, Negroponte,
Co-Conspirators, Milgram, Seligman, Koocher, Psychopathy,
Sociopathy, Criminal Insanity, Crimes, Murder, War Crimes, Nuremberg,
The Hague, Kooks, Yale Child Study Center, Bob Geller, Joanne Cohen,
Packer, Frank, Blessedby2, TSNW, Alfred Enisz, Mark Morin, Gary
Burnore, Steve Ruiz, Micheal Acquino, Daniel L. Rogers, Eric S.
Riddick, Kimberly K. Barnard, Deborah Bentley, Ann Rein, Catherine
McEvoy, Mark S. Probert, Joseph M. Parsons, Child molestation, Rape,
Frank
2007-12-06 00:42:36 UTC
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The criminal whom you call "Frankie" authors hate speech which makes
that criminal a dead ringer
for an alt.support.tourette poster named Bob Geller / Gish / Kish.
In May 2007, Meri S Kennedy published an article to
"...I am Bob's little sister who was molested and raped by him."
Sorry Linda, you do not interest me sexually, you are too old, half
dead, diseased, have mental problems, drink far too much, gamble in
excess. lie a LOT, half blind and smell bad. I am not interested in
someone anywhere near you age. I will NOT fulfill your fantasies about
rape, bondage no matter how hard you try. You have nothing that appeals
to me nor any sensible person.

Calling me a criminal is a criminal offense, I have never been convicted
of anything. As a proper Italian I have notified the family regarding
your behaviors, they will have your best interests at heart.

m***@gmail.com
2007-11-27 18:27:21 UTC
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Post by indomitable2
For years, Bush and his flying monkeys have sought to protect Bush
and his flying monkeys from being impeached, prosecuted, imprisoned
and/or executed for their war crimes, their wholesale looting of
America, their widespread theft of America's children (especially in
Kansas), and, their making a complete mockery of the US
constitution, the bill of rights, religious faith, and, everything
else decent Americans hold near and dear, BY, corrupt government
employees (current and former) and, the army of felons and whackjobs
which corrupt government employees recruit, contributing to the
imprisonment, debilitation, and, inevitably the death of federal
whistleblowers, investigative journalists, and, patriotic
americans, most especially, America's domestic decision makers aka
apple-pie baking, stay at home "soccer moms", by, subjecting them to
a program of systematic torture consisting of globally libeling,
constantly harassing, incessantly threatening them and the lives of
their loved ones, impostering, forging, and, gangstalking them,
and, in all probability wiretapping them.
Readers can rest assured that no one is filled with as much shock and
awe that Bush and his flying monkeys have corrupt government employees
(current and former), and, the felons and whackjobs they recruit,
endeavoring to contribute to the imprisonment, debilitation, and,
even the death of average, ordinary, apple-pie baking, stay at
home, american "soccer moms", then, the American stay-at-home,
soccer moms, like yours truly, whom, corrupt government employees
(current and former), and, the felons and whackjobs
whom they recruit are globally libeling, relentlessly harassing,
incessantly threatening, and, viciously gangstalking.
Unfortunately, the facts are irrefutable.
I am an ordinary, average, relatively insignificant, apple-pie
baking, stay at home, american "soccer mom".
You lie. You are *no* American soccer mom, you boy never played soccer,
you never owned an SUV and you are on the dole. You are a nazi, jew
hating anti-American based on your recent posts.
Now grant you, your mind is slipping badly and you're starting to have
problems remembering from moment to moment, and grant you that you are
sometimes confused by your very own posts and other crap that you save
on your computers, but you are definitely *not* a soccer mom. Fact is,
your boy is too old to keep you in that classification. When he was
younger, he walked to school, you could not drive him. I do hope your
computers are in proper running order and that your "archives" have not
been modified to confuse what is left of that pea pickin brain of yours.
Snipped all the rest of your BS for now. Oddly, you rail against the
American gov't yet you want them to support you, your therapy costs,
your kids possible college until he drinks himself under the table like
his mom and gets tossed and you want them to persue the phantoms of your
mind. lol
BTW, what a pickle you are in, your son is now too old for welfare funds
so what are you going to do? Teach him to gamble at an Indian Casino
like his mom?
PS if you were an American you would have known better and spelled it
with a capital A you dumb Nazi loon.
Linda is extremely psychotic and has been for years. Linda has ruined
many mental health usenet message boards, making them unusable or
close to unusable. Many claim this is simply the result of unmoderated
message boards. I say yes it is, but in her case its an extreme
situation and not typical even by troll standards.

Linda really belongs in a state mental institution or at least, some
sort of assisted living program. She also needs to be in an assisted
medication program (forced meds), but according to TAC, Nevada has no
outpatient forced med laws. Nevada is one of eight states that has no
such laws. Maybe thats why she moved there????

Perhaps usenet posters could pool their money to hire an attorney and
collectively go to the Vegas authorities and have Linda Gore placed
into some sort of home or institution and onto some meds like haldol,
lithium or whatever it is she needs. My personal opinion is she is
schizo and needs neuroleptics very badly. Im not saying that just to
badger her or harass her, either. All her posts ring of paranoia and
crazy delusional ideas. She is EXTREMELY suspicious!
Frank
2007-11-28 00:20:51 UTC
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Post by m***@gmail.com
Post by Frank
Post by indomitable2
For years, Bush and his flying monkeys have sought to protect Bush
and his flying monkeys from being impeached, prosecuted,
imprisoned
and/or executed for their war crimes, their wholesale looting of
America, their widespread theft of America's children (especially in
Kansas), and, their making a complete mockery of the US
constitution, the bill of rights, religious faith, and,
everything
else decent Americans hold near and dear, BY, corrupt government
employees (current and former) and, the army of felons and
whackjobs
which corrupt government employees recruit, contributing to the
imprisonment, debilitation, and, inevitably the death of federal
whistleblowers, investigative journalists, and, patriotic
americans, most especially, America's domestic decision makers aka
apple-pie baking, stay at home "soccer moms", by, subjecting them to
a program of systematic torture consisting of globally libeling,
constantly harassing, incessantly threatening them and the lives of
their loved ones, impostering, forging, and, gangstalking them,
and, in all probability wiretapping them.
Readers can rest assured that no one is filled with as much shock and
awe that Bush and his flying monkeys have corrupt government employees
(current and former), and, the felons and whackjobs they recruit,
endeavoring to contribute to the imprisonment, debilitation, and,
even the death of average, ordinary, apple-pie baking, stay at
home, american "soccer moms", then, the American stay-at-home,
soccer moms, like yours truly, whom, corrupt government employees
(current and former), and, the felons and whackjobs
whom they recruit are globally libeling, relentlessly harassing,
incessantly threatening, and, viciously gangstalking.
Unfortunately, the facts are irrefutable.
I am an ordinary, average, relatively insignificant, apple-pie
baking, stay at home, american "soccer mom".
You lie. You are *no* American soccer mom, you boy never played soccer,
you never owned an SUV and you are on the dole. You are a nazi, jew
hating anti-American based on your recent posts.
Now grant you, your mind is slipping badly and you're starting to have
problems remembering from moment to moment, and grant you that you are
sometimes confused by your very own posts and other crap that you save
on your computers, but you are definitely *not* a soccer mom. Fact is,
your boy is too old to keep you in that classification. When he was
younger, he walked to school, you could not drive him. I do hope your
computers are in proper running order and that your "archives" have not
been modified to confuse what is left of that pea pickin brain of yours.
Snipped all the rest of your BS for now. Oddly, you rail against the
American gov't yet you want them to support you, your therapy costs,
your kids possible college until he drinks himself under the table like
his mom and gets tossed and you want them to persue the phantoms of your
mind. lol
BTW, what a pickle you are in, your son is now too old for welfare funds
so what are you going to do? Teach him to gamble at an Indian Casino
like his mom?
PS if you were an American you would have known better and spelled it
with a capital A you dumb Nazi loon.
Linda is extremely psychotic and has been for years. Linda has ruined
many mental health usenet message boards, making them unusable or
close to unusable. Many claim this is simply the result of unmoderated
message boards. I say yes it is, but in her case its an extreme
situation and not typical even by troll standards.
Linda really belongs in a state mental institution or at least, some
sort of assisted living program. She also needs to be in an assisted
medication program (forced meds), but according to TAC, Nevada has no
outpatient forced med laws. Nevada is one of eight states that has no
such laws. Maybe thats why she moved there????
Perhaps usenet posters could pool their money to hire an attorney and
collectively go to the Vegas authorities and have Linda Gore placed
into some sort of home or institution and onto some meds like haldol,
lithium or whatever it is she needs. My personal opinion is she is
schizo and needs neuroleptics very badly. Im not saying that just to
badger her or harass her, either. All her posts ring of paranoia and
crazy delusional ideas. She is EXTREMELY suspicious!
It is the subliminal voices in her computers. Old dos based sound
programs that operate through the computer speaker without a sound card.
low volume but amps kicked up to penetrate. :)
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